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To: The_Reader_David

You obviously have not studied. Even "Desert Storm" was labeled in the Bible - the words were "a violent wind will come from the north, like a whirlwind" .. the word "whirlwind" is translated "desert storm".

So .. actually .. God does know what He's talking about. WWIII will actually be a war of Gog (Russia) and Magog (China), against Israel. But .. God will be there to defeat them.

I don't give a rip if you believe anything I say .. I have studied this since 1985 .. and I can tell you I've heard more than one prophecy scholar translate the scriptures in Ezekiel and Daniel the very same way.

It's you, sir, that are ignorant of the scriptures - and God's ability to see far, far into the future and reveal that to us by HIS scriptures. God sees the beginning and the end .. and he told us .. as born again believers, "you have been given the mysteries and secrets of the kingdom".

So please don't try to tell me you believe you have more authority or knowledge of the scriptures than God - and you are able to determine whether I have translated the scriptures correctly.


16 posted on 09/16/2006 12:34:03 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: CyberAnt

Being able to cite a pack of 'prophecy scholars', all of whom I wager are protestants rather than standing in the communion of any of the churches that can reasonably claim a continuity of spiritual life with the Church founded by Christ in his earthly ministry and in the pouring out of the Holy Spirit on the Apostles on the day of Pentecost in the year of His Saving Death and Resurrection*, is quite frankly underwhelming to me.

I have slowly come round to the view of Tertullian, that those outside the Church, have no right to appeal to Her books.

Identifying Gog with Russia and Magog with China is quite frankly absurd, as in the original Hebrew 'magog' means 'from Gog', a fact made clear the Septuigent version of Ezekiel in Greek (the one accepted by the entire Christian Church until Luther decided the Christ-denying rabbis of Jamnia were right to shorten the canon and toss out books that were too comfortable to the Christians, thereby starting the protestant enthusiasm for an hypothetical), in which Magog is manifestly a person, while Gog is a place.
Hebrew ur-text).

Sorry, I've studied as much or more than you, but I prefer to read the Scriptures under the tutelage of the Fathers of the Church down the ages, not some johnny-come-lately heretics who fancy they are living in the end-times, even though Christ Himself told us no man could know the hour of His return.

I see though you have dropped your insistence that this war you fancy is clearly prophesied in the Scriptures has to be the one we'll call WW III. I'm glad, as that was my original point.

*I, naturally, regard us Orthodox as having the best claim, though the Latins, monophysites (Copts, Armenians and Jacobites), and Nestorians (Assyrians) can all stake a claim, too--Baptists, 'Bible believing Christians' whose Bible was shortened by Luther, Lutherans, Presbyterians, . . . quite frankly can't.


17 posted on 09/16/2006 12:53:26 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: CyberAnt

I think we attacked from the east and south.


25 posted on 09/19/2006 9:57:43 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy (It's a fight to the death with Democrats.)
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