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Mini Guns Put ATF On Alert
WCBS-TV (New York) ^ | 9/6/06 | Ti-Hua Chang

Posted on 09/08/2006 9:34:34 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

Federal ATF Agents issued an officer safety advisory on what is called the world’s smallest gun after a CBS 2 inquiry. The Alert has been issued both in the New York and nationally to all Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives criminal investigators and will be passed on to other federal agencies.

ATF has confiscated thousands of disguised or miniature guns -- from flashlights that shoot a .25 caliber bullet to pen guns.

The latest miniature gun that is alarming ATF agents is the SwissMiniGun. It’s extremely small -- just over two inches long. It comes with tiny bullets designed especially for the weapon that can penetrate skin. Even in its holster, this gun is so small that law enforcement experts say it could pass for a keychain ornament.

According to William McMahon, special agent in charge of the New York ATF office, that makes it the perfect stealth weapon for a variety of criminals.

“A terrorist, a criminal trying to sneak into bank, all kinds of criminals. I can see no legitimate reason to own this gun. It seems to be just made to be hidden,” McMahon said.

As its name indicates, the SwissMiniGun is manufactured in Switzerland. CBS 2 News reached the company's CEO, Paul Erard, by phone.

He said the gun is a miniature, detailed copy of the Colt Python revolver. He sells it for roughly $5,000 to gun collectors (though he added that most of his guns are encrusted with diamonds and gold, so they can cost $30,000).

He said he has sold 50 miniguns, all to only one area of the world. “Contacts in the Middle East asked me to make a miniature of Colt Python," said Erard.

Erard refused to say which Middle-Eastern countries. His reaction when asked if terrorists might use it? At first he laughed and said, “ Absolutely ridiculous.”

When CBS 2 got him to admit his gun shoots bullets using gunpowder, he then changed his tone. “Of course I am concerned as manufacturers of air guns are concerned. This is not a toy,” said Erard.

A national police organization notes that unlike air guns, SwissMiniGuns can be concealed and shoot with gunpowder bullets that travel at 400-plus feet per second. These bullets could be aimed at the face.

Joe Occhipinti of the National Police Defense Foundation was alarmed by the SwissMiniGun’s potential uses, noting, “In a routine stop, a guy could certainly make a joke, and 'Say see my little gun here?' point at the officer and shoot. It looks like a key chain and [an officer’s] guard would be down."

Occhipinti added, "I could easily see a passenger attempting to go to an airport take out a key chain put in with coins in the little basket. No one would detect that."

SwissMiniGuns cannot be legally imported into the United States because the barrel is less than three inches long -- in this case, a lot less.

No SwissMiniGuns have been recovered here yet, but McMahon admits, “If it came into the United States, it would be a concern.”

This alert is the result of a single officer in Maryland seeing the gun on a Web site and alerting other officers, including the National Police Defense Foundation.

CBS 2 News learned of the weapon and passed word on to the ATF. It is an example of officers using the Internet the way some terrorists do but in this case, to combat them.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: atf; bang; banglist; bs; swissminigun
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To: kiriath_jearim
According to William McMahon, special agent in charge of the New York ATF office, that makes it the perfect stealth weapon for a variety of criminals. “A terrorist, a criminal trying to sneak into bank, all kinds of criminals. I can see no legitimate reason to own this gun. It seems to be just made to be hidden,” McMahon said.

you sir are a dammed idiot

41 posted on 09/08/2006 10:33:56 AM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

That is hilarious that a thinking adult would be frightened of something that doesn't even qualify as a toy. I'd be willing to take a round to the chest from five feet on live television if CBS-New York would schedule a follow-up story and feature uninterrupted commentary from Wayne LaPierre. Talk about making mountains out of molehills!

~ Blue Jays ~

42 posted on 09/08/2006 10:34:45 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Bogey78O

you just put one hell of a smile on my face.....


43 posted on 09/08/2006 10:35:19 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Israel, taking out the world's trash since 1948.)
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To: capitalist229
I finally found it! Embedded links contain tecnical data, etc.

World’s Smallest Functional Revolver [Free Republic]

44 posted on 09/08/2006 10:37:40 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: kiriath_jearim

Celebrate FREEDOM! Buy a Gun on 9/11 !!!


45 posted on 09/08/2006 10:41:37 AM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: Charlespg
William McMahon, special agent in charge of the New York ATF office

you sir are a dammed idiot

Nope not an idiot at all, but rather a statist who will use any and all means including blatantly lying to advance the statist wet dream of an america where on ly the police and military are armed.

46 posted on 09/08/2006 10:43:30 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
This is too funny.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

47 posted on 09/08/2006 10:58:32 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: Larry Lucido
Larry, you crack me up!
48 posted on 09/08/2006 10:59:26 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism. *NRA*)
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To: kiriath_jearim

They must be wringing out their Depends over at WCBS.


49 posted on 09/08/2006 11:05:12 AM PDT by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: Joe Brower

Actually, I should have said "occupying soldier," not "invading soldier." I can't imagine this being much use against an active Panzer division, but it might take out a sentry in a "Hail Mary, help me out here" moment.


50 posted on 09/08/2006 11:06:01 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: kiriath_jearim
Terrorists? Bank robbers? Does someone actually pay people to worry about these silly things?

"Alright, give me all your money or I'll sting your arm just like a wasp. If I can borrow a paper clip to reach the trigger."

51 posted on 09/08/2006 11:08:31 AM PDT by Sender (What was the best thing before sliced bread?)
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To: green iguana

52 posted on 09/08/2006 11:09:30 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: CGTRWK
About 10 ounces of muzzle energy. It fires a 2 grain projectile at 400 feet per second.

The bullet is about the size of a single piece of #7-1/2 shot.

Wow ... a gun you can literally get shot with and laugh about it.

53 posted on 09/08/2006 11:12:49 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Property tax is feudalism. Income taxes are armed robbery of the minority by the majority.)
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To: Joe Brower

It'd be funny if the BATFE wasn't in the habit of killing people over crap like this.


54 posted on 09/08/2006 11:15:58 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: from occupied ga

In general, you are exactly right. But in this particular case, he is a total idiot too.


55 posted on 09/08/2006 11:16:28 AM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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To: Badray
In general, you are exactly right. But in this particular case, he is a total idiot too.

One sort of implies the other

56 posted on 09/08/2006 11:19:00 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: from occupied ga

400 fps has as much power as my airsoft rifle. I mean, yeah it would hurt, but kill...?


57 posted on 09/08/2006 11:20:41 AM PDT by gun_supporter
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To: kiriath_jearim

I'd have more confidence in a thrown rock.


58 posted on 09/08/2006 11:29:13 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"It comes with tiny bullets designed especially for the weapon that can penetrate skin."

Wooooo now I'm scared. Criminals can now inflict flesh wounds. What's the world coming to?

59 posted on 09/08/2006 11:30:12 AM PDT by Desron13 (If you constantly vote between the lesser of two evils then evil is your ultimate destination.)
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To: Dumpster Baby

LOL - but I'm not sure there's room for those sights on this revolver...


60 posted on 09/08/2006 11:30:37 AM PDT by green iguana
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