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Blacks May Gain as UCLA Moves to Alter Admissions
The Los Angeles ^ | Rebecca Trounson

Posted on 09/07/2006 8:33:36 AM PDT by siddude

Spurred partly by campus and community concern over dwindling numbers of African American students, UCLA is moving toward a major shift in its admissions process, perhaps as early as this fall.

The changes in admissions, pushed by acting Chancellor Norman Abrams and several faculty leaders, would be the most dramatic at UCLA in at least five years. They would move the Westwood campus toward a more "holistic" admissions model — much like UC Berkeley's — in which students' achievements are viewed in the context of their personal experiences.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: aa; afirmativeaction; college; collegeadmissions; prop209; quotas; ucla; university
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Whatever to just hard work. Turn off the TV and study hard! We have to learn to compete in this world why coddle people who can't?
1 posted on 09/07/2006 8:33:37 AM PDT by siddude
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To: siddude

Thus, a degree from UCLA will be as valuable as a 3 year old lottery ticket.


3 posted on 09/07/2006 8:35:39 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: siddude

UCLA isn't concerned about the dramatic drop in enrollment of white men, however. This dilution of standards will only benefit black women.


4 posted on 09/07/2006 8:36:21 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: siddude

Lowering the bar...nothing to see here...move along...


5 posted on 09/07/2006 8:36:57 AM PDT by steel_resolve (Do you know what a bigot is? Someone winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: Wombat101

"students' achievements are viewed in the context of their personal experiences"

Eventually, they're going to instill
that as a criterion into the High School
curriculum as well. And we thought there
was nothing to the "Dumbing down of America!"


6 posted on 09/07/2006 8:38:08 AM PDT by Grendel9
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Asians would suffer by lowering the bar far more than whites, not that I care.
7 posted on 09/07/2006 8:38:42 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: siddude
This is a pefect example of the biased nature of LA Times and other MSM articles.
8 posted on 09/07/2006 8:40:13 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: siddude

"students' achievements are viewed in the context of their personal experiences".

Translation: We're not getting the racial mix we want with an admissions policy based upon merit, so we're changing the rules (again). Being the good Marxists we are, we must achieve equality of outcome. Academic excellence will have to take a back seat at our institution of lower learning.


9 posted on 09/07/2006 8:42:26 AM PDT by reelfoot
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Blacks May Gain

Only if you consider being admitted to a university where you're not educationally prepared to succeed a "gain".

10 posted on 09/07/2006 8:44:13 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: theDentist
Thus, a degree from UCLA will be as valuable as a 3 year old lottery ticket.

See why they are called institutions of lower learning.

11 posted on 09/07/2006 8:50:50 AM PDT by Digger
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To: theDentist
"Thus, a degree from UCLA will be as valuable as a 3 year old lottery ticket."

It's been there for awhile now.

One benefit might be a reduction in the number of self-loathing upper middle class white kids roaming the streets of West Hollyweird.

12 posted on 09/07/2006 8:53:08 AM PDT by norton
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And what will UCLA do when they discover that many of the people admitted under the holistic admissions standards, who would not have qualified under traditional admissions standards, are unable to learn at the college level? Will UCLA also adopt a holistic grading standard that is based not upon a student's mastery of the course material, but rather, on the sudent's experiences in the hood? I can see it now:

College essay question: Compare and contrast the Magna Carta with the United States Constitution.

Answer: I ain't got no concern for no Magna Hoota. What matter's is da way Bush gone destroyed our hood and our culture. No justice, no peace, no justice, no peace.

Professor: That's an "A".

13 posted on 09/07/2006 9:00:14 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

So when the UCLA admissions' committee needs surgery, are they going to go to a surgeon that has had lots of holistic experiences?


14 posted on 09/07/2006 9:02:20 AM PDT by Utahrd
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To: siddude
"holistic" admissions model

That is a fancy way of saying they discriminate based on race.
15 posted on 09/07/2006 9:02:53 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: siddude

Translation: They're getting too many Asians because their culture values studying and hard work.


16 posted on 09/07/2006 9:02:56 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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"students' achievements are viewed in the context of their personal experiences."

Hey, 'bro.....you get 10 points for gang activity at UCLA.............

17 posted on 09/07/2006 9:43:57 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Labyrinthos

Yes, this is a way for the college officials to feel good about themselves. Many of the admitted minority students will then flunk out, but the college officials won't care. Dr. Thomas Sowell and Prof. Shelby Steele have been saying this for years. And yes, then some people might actually try to impose quotas on graduation rates. After all, that is what instigated Prop. 209. A bill in the CA legislature (passed by Dems) had tried to do exactly that. They think that they are so great, but they never look at the unintended consequences: how it ends up hurting the minorities who flunk out, or how qualified students are kept out. Dem leaders are just plain bad people.


18 posted on 09/07/2006 12:36:32 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

And what about the many black and other minority students who would have qualified under the higher standards. No matter how well they do after graduation, a lot of people will whisper that "he only got in there because he was black." I know one black guy, for example, who went to an Ivy League college and and Ivy League law school, and is now a partner at the one of the world's most pretigious law firms. He is extremely smart (even for a liberal), and I know that for a fact because he graduated first from my high school class. Yet I have actually heard people say that he never would have gotten into the Ivy League if he wasn't black and he never would have been hired by this particular law firm if not for the need to fill a quota. To me, that's one of the saddest consequences of affirmative action.


19 posted on 09/07/2006 12:56:49 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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...a more "holistic" admissions model...in which students' achievements are viewed in the context of their personal experiences.

Riiiight....holistic. What they mean is in context of their pigmentation. The word holistic is just an obfuscation that allows enough confusion for them to do their judging exclusively on the color of the skin rather than the content of the character.

20 posted on 09/07/2006 1:05:08 PM PDT by Plutarch
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