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To: Mad Dawgg; Kirkwood
I agree with kirkwood that you are mischaracterizing the crew accounts.If you can't even talk about the real facts, why bother?

As I've stated, Irwin was close to a wild animal that thousands of other people get close to every year without harm or distress to them or the animal. It's like a car blew up and you said, "Well, cars do have gas in them, it's a disservice to pretend this guy didn't increase his risk by going near a car."

Have a nice life.

213 posted on 09/07/2006 11:32:15 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Help honor those 2,996 people lost on 9/11-- www.dcroe.com/2996)
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To: Mr. Silverback
'"Well, cars do have gas in them, it's a disservice to pretend this guy didn't increase his risk by going near a car."'

I see you are finally seeing the light.

This is exactly the point.

Today I have significantly reduced my chances of dying in an airplane crash because I did not get on one. Granted one could crash into the building I live in but my chances are significantly reduced still.

My chances of dying by Stingray are almost nil because I am not near one, granted an islamo terrorist could spring out of the ceiling weilding one but I am willing to bet large sums of money it won't happen.

As for the mischaracterization this is the story I read:

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20354482-952,00.html

Marine documentary maker Ben Cropp, who was also diving on the Great Barrier Reef yesterday, said the injury was inflicted by a bull ray.

"In this case he was swimming alongside a bull ray, a big black ray and the cameraman would have been in front, filming him," Cropp revealed, after speaking with a member of Irwin's production crew.

"Steve got probably maybe a bit too close to the ray, and with the cameraman in front, the ray must have felt sort of cornered."

He said the ray went into a defensive mode and lashed out with its tail, which has a considerable spike.

214 posted on 09/07/2006 12:16:56 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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