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Peak oil theorists don't know Jack ( It Could Increase U.S. Reserves by 50% )
Globe and Mail ^ | 5 September 2006 | PATRICK BRETHOUR

Posted on 09/05/2006 10:03:24 PM PDT by demlosers

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To: gleeaikin
The fact that there is no E85 available to the public in such East Coast places as Connecticut, Maryland, DC, and Virginia is rediculous.

I gather it's an technical/infrastructure problem. Ethanol can not be sent via pipeline like refined oil products and ethanol has to be mixed at the local tank farm, not at the refinery. There is little ethanol being made on the East Coast since corn is not an especially abundant crop there as in the Midwest. To get ethanol to the East Coast requires shipping by train or truck which adds lots to the cost.

81 posted on 09/06/2006 12:23:10 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

That's Petrobras? I think maybe they have the world's deepest offshore well right now, but I haven't double-checked that. I did read a little about your project - very exciting.


82 posted on 09/06/2006 2:17:57 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: geopyg

If that was the time period I was thinking of, there was the small matter of natural gas going from $7/MCF to something like $.50/MCF. Makes a huge difference. That's what happened with the Tuscaloosa Trend, too - 1986 happened.


83 posted on 09/06/2006 2:24:47 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Not yet. First we stick it to the envirocrats and tell them to piss off. Then build a few more refineries and then we tell Iran where to put it.

Whew...that would be too late -- Iran would have plenty nukes by then. Let's do it in reverse, a-la-Ronald Reagan.

84 posted on 09/06/2006 4:33:52 PM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: Petronski
I don't think so. Do you really think this has only been in the works for two or three years? The article says the algorithms have been in preparation for several years.

Subsalt imaging has been a project with the theoretical and processing geophysicists for 20, maybe 30 years now. Imaging correctly the steep bedding dips near salt has also been a problem going back at least that long, or longer. The answers are still elusive.

85 posted on 09/06/2006 5:22:30 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: -=SoylentSquirrel=-

I've been following your project as well- I work for an independant that owns several medium sized product tankers in the Jones Act trade. Are you using open- or -closed loop for your heat exchangers when regasification is going on? I've been hearing that the new project in LA is causing a ruckus because of the environmental impact of the ice-cold water coming out of the plant.

BTB, if one of your FPSO's has to git because of a hurricane or equivalent strong weather, how long does it take to get underway, and can the vessel 1) move at pre-conversion speed, and 2) handle rough weather with the new stability profile?

Thanks for your post, btb, and good luck-


86 posted on 09/06/2006 5:23:11 PM PDT by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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To: Rte66
No company is going to put that kind of money upfront to test a well like that while "counting on" $70/bbl oil.

The acreage "Jack" was found under, was probably leased using prospect economics featuring a $20 price deck.

If it's as big as Chevron thinks, then the prospect could have gone forward with $30 oil, or $50 oil. If prices for any reason had gone below $20, they'd have walked away from it and just let the acreage revert to the government -- at least, before they got their first straw in it and could count the pay.

87 posted on 09/06/2006 5:26:58 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

And thus, it is not motivated by $75 spot oil prices.


88 posted on 09/06/2006 5:30:15 PM PDT by Petronski (David Gregory is a drug-addled psychotic scumbag.)
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To: txroadhawg; The Red Zone
So where would the excess carbon go??? solidifies into coal or other hard carbon molecules

Bitumen. Separates out into bitumen (the equivalent of the refiner's "resid" => tar, goo) and short-chain hydrocarbons (methane, ethane). Mudloggers usually see this in a show as C1 through a trace of C3 on the chromatograph in the mud returns while drilling through it. That's an indication of fractionated gas with traces of light liquid hydrocarbons ("condensate" in industry parlance -- accent on the first syllable). The condensate can sometimes be as light as gasoline, and used to be called that -- "casinghead gasoline" in old "oilman talk". Clear, light, aromatic, it'll actually run in your car's engine, only don't do it, because it also contains vanadium and other elements that need to be refined out (vanadium hardens steel and will cause your rings to start cracking and scuffing).

89 posted on 09/06/2006 5:35:36 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: saganite

The largest oil reserves in the world.....


90 posted on 09/06/2006 5:37:23 PM PDT by thinking
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To: Petronski
And thus, it is not motivated by $75 spot oil prices.

No. The first well was drilled a couple of years ago. Mind you, they probably waited until the price deck justified the project anew, before they drilled that well.

Prospect economics is very much a game of "Mother, may I?" with people who are ruled by the gods of money in New York making all the decisions. People who know more, waiting on the nod from people who know less and have a completely different agenda.

When oil prices ran up from the abysmal retest of the 80's lows in 1991 (I once saw a CEO so put-out he could have kicked the cat, back in 1991: here he was drilling $10 million dollar wells up in Wyoming, and the market was telling him he could have 90 cents per MCF of gas -- fortunately, he persevered with the project) and began to look like the "bust" was over, in 1996, companies committed a lot more money to exploration, bumping their exploration budgets 10-20% over prior year's expenditures and taking on staff to handle the workload.

Then the bottom suddenly fell out because the Southeast Asian real-estate bubble that was fueling demand suddenly burst, and millions of Asian motorbikes got parked for a while. Oil prices retreated to $12/bbl or so, and the New York financial guys were practically screaming at the energy executives. The effect was to impose "capital discipline" on the energy companies, which amounted to pledges never, ever to hire anyone ever again, and never, ever to let their price deck get above some ridiculously low number -- i.e., no more surprises, no matter what. So they've been painfully cautious about edging up the "price deck" they use in prospect economics. As recently as two or three years ago, industry observers and participants quoted in the industry press were still anticipating headcount reductions in the industry amounting to 20% over the next five years. No, really.

Prices for oil were around $30, but disbelief was rampant (good sign of a market bottom), and people were saying that the prices wouldn't hold up, and we'd be back to $20 before you know it.

New York extracted from the industry (with senior management jobs stapled to them) promises of tighter risk management, higher returns to shareholders from operations, faster growth ("get big or get out"), and continued organizational retrenchment after the Asian bust, at precisely the time, given deepwater-offshore project lead times, when they should have been expanding their exploration efforts, in order to anticipate and meet rising demand from Asia.

And that's the real story behind $70 oil.

91 posted on 09/06/2006 6:17:31 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: geopyg
I worked on a rig in Wyoming that went to 24k, and a rig in Oklahoma that went to 36k - summer jobs as a roughneck (early eighies).

Exxon just drilled a collossally deep well-- a record -- in the shallow shelf of the Gulf of Mexico a few weeks ago -- economic failure, no telling what they actually found. I'd have to see the completion ticket (P&A versus T/A or suspended).

92 posted on 09/07/2006 4:49:46 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: capt.P
Hi. I am merely a writer on this project with no engineering talent, so take my comments with that in mind.

I think we use closed loop on the heat exchangers.

Re: having to git due to weather: It won't. Once in situ, the engines will be mothballed. The anchors and risers would take weeks, if not months, to disconnect. However, the weather in the area is fairly tame. The vessel is designed to stay in place for at least 10 years; there is a provision to dry dock it at that time, but it will not be able to travel under it's own power.

The vessel is designed to "weathervane" or pivot at the bow. This allows it to automatically face into the current.

93 posted on 09/07/2006 7:07:29 AM PDT by -=SoylentSquirrel=- (Be safe, buy ammo.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Here's an article on that deep Exxon well. The well was "temporarily abandoned" at 30,067 feet because of high pressure. It's targets were at 32,000-38,000 feet and bottom hole temperatures were expected to be from 400 to 600 degrees.

Deeeeeep well

94 posted on 09/07/2006 12:39:34 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: thackney

But nobody is building LNG capable harbors - and nobody wants them! (they can go boom!)


95 posted on 10/08/2006 11:55:54 AM PDT by GregoryFul (cheap, immigrant labor built America)
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To: theBuckwheat
Peak Oil is about economics. People, industry, users, are pushed out of the market as real prices rise. Alternatives are brought on line at various prices, when and if the energy costs of bringing alternatives on line are less than the energy input necessary to bring them on line. That is the problem, we've built a huge infrastructure based on cheap oil - it used to be, stick a pipe in the ground, and out comes a-bubbling crude. That is not happening anymore. Now oil companies go to great lengths to recover oil, and separate it from the water cut. They are investing in hugely expensive projects, and considering marginal payoff situations (oil sands, shale, etc) to obtain this basic commodity. They have invested in drilling in places that wacky ideas like "abiotic oil" suggest that oil could be found. There may be centuries of oil available, but at ever increasing real prices - you and I will be cut out of the market at some point, and be riding buses then bicycles to work, should the industries we work for be in existence.

Peak oil is about demand increases outrunning production increases - and the consequent steep real price increase brought about by this event. Peak oil is the top of the bell curve, and is predicted by the statistics of fewer and fewer significant finds over the years (real facts), and ever increasing demand. It is not a bunch of loonies expressing their vacuous opinions.

96 posted on 10/08/2006 12:20:54 PM PDT by GregoryFul (cheap, immigrant labor built America)
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To: GregoryFul
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Peak oil is about demand increases outrunning production increases - and the consequent steep real price increase brought about by this event.
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This is like saying that Global Warming is only about climate change. Both Peak Oil and Global Warming are facades on ideological campaigns that have socialist underpinnings. They are excuses to impose "solutions" where the problem is only a matter of perception and in opposition to the free market.
97 posted on 10/08/2006 8:02:48 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: MNJohnnie

In the 1920s they thought they were running out of oil and then Dad Joiner found the East Texas field, where the geologists had delared no oil can be found. Tha field alone produced enough oil to support the US military during WWII, while the German military machine was starving because of the lack of it. If Hitler had given Rommel enough troops to break through into the Middle East, the war would have taken a different turn.


98 posted on 10/08/2006 8:10:38 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

In the end, the only way to find oil is actually to dig wells. After lots of dry holes, comes a gusher!


99 posted on 10/08/2006 8:11:57 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: theBuckwheat

Socialists governments base their power to ration the delivery of goods to the select few. Some capitalists use government to undercut the competition, but capitalism invariably under cuts THEM!


100 posted on 10/08/2006 8:14:34 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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