[oldleft]

The "liberals" in this country are anything but in the classical sense of the word. "Liberal" in a true sense is someone who believes in individual rights and free market capitalism. Nowadays the term has been redefined as "neo-liberalism." If you hear some overseas dictator yelling about "liberals" or "neo-liberals" they're usually taking about free market capitalists.

[Cold Heat]

True....The terms have been muddied by politics over time.

There are now blurred distinctions in both camps.

I find it interesting when Libertarians call themselves the true conservatives, for example.

The labels are all invalid it seems....

Another good example is the Republican party. Republicans are really old classic liberals. We took the democrats positions and beat them, fair and square by taking their issues.

This forced the Democrats further left and now they are so far left they have fallen off the chart....LOL!

This left a political vacuum for conservatives to fill on the right. It will be interesting to watch as all this shakes out. Sorta like playing musical chairs. The loser will not have a place to sit.

[monday]

""Liberal" in a true sense is someone who believes in individual rights and free market capitalism."

Exactly, Democrats have perverted the meaning of the word by calling themselves "liberals". They are about as liberal as Stalin was liberal.