[jwalsh07]

Implanting an embryo is neither "natural" nor "supernatural", and those words are not antonyms.

???? What's the point? The argument you and bambam are making is a stupid one. Open heart surgery isn't a "natural" process in your book either. And yet the patient on entry to the OR is both viable and in need of a heart transplant to retain that viability. Is the patient not viable or the victim of artificial, unnatural or supernatural practices?

[jas3]

Implanting an embryo is neither "natural" nor "supernatural", and those words are not antonyms.

???? What's the point?

The point is that you claimed that a IVF is a natural process BECAUSE it is not "supernatural". And I noted that just because something is not supernatural does not make it natural. Artificial strawberry flavoring is not supernatural; it is also not natural. Do you understand why your reasoning is flawed that IVF is "natural" because it is not "supernatural" ?

The argument you and bambam are making is a stupid one. Open heart surgery isn't a "natural" process in your book either.

But in the case of open heart surgery, the operation is being performed on a human being. That open heart surgery is not "natural" does not make embryo implantation "natural".

jas3