[HairOfTheDog]

So you think it should be left up to kids to decide on what? Just this? Or everything? Or some set of things you've decided on? Should kids be told the facts and then be left to decide on their own what to eat and when to go to bed and what to watch on TV? So we should just present them with our reasoning and then let them decide? At what age would you start taking this approach?

What a shallow, irrational attempt at condescension! Teaching kids the ability to reason and letting them come to their own conclusion ~is~ the best thing we could teach them, IMHO... Much more valuable than just having them memorize ~your~ point of view.

BTW, this approach sounds eerily similar to what a lot of DIMS advocate. How does your approach differ from theirs?

I think they cringe and break into a sweat if someone mentions God... I don't.

[ml1954]

What a shallow, irrational attempt at condescension!

I've responded rationally since I posted to you and you have responded with no rational argument and insults. You've thrown 'arrogant' and 'condescending' at me, unsupported and with no basis in fact. I've asked you questions and you've responded with unsupported assertions and insults.

Teaching kids the ability to reason and letting them come to their own conclusion ~is~ the best thing we could teach them, IMHO

A fine idea and sentiment and goal. However, I doubt anyone who's had kids would wholeheartedly jump on board here. And I doubt you would be so 'liberal' when your kids want to 'decide' for themselves on other things.