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Nightmare Mortgages
Business Week ^ | September 11, 2006 | Unknown

Posted on 08/31/2006 5:26:52 PM PDT by Mini-14

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To: Mini-14
Call me old fasioned,but I still believe in the old fixed rate,30 year,20% down mortgage.
21 posted on 08/31/2006 5:51:40 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: darkwing104

Was that A Farewell To ARMs ???


22 posted on 08/31/2006 5:51:58 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Mini-14
ARMs are bad. LEGs are better. *rimshot*


23 posted on 08/31/2006 5:56:01 PM PDT by lmr ("The answers to life don't involve complex solutions." -Del Riley 2006)
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To: Jaysun

This assumes the real estate company is ethical and honest.

I would say most are but there are those few that are in it to make a fast buck.

The local paper had an article about people buying more house than they should. One misstep, injury or out of work for a short time and they lose the house. The paper pointed out one house which had been sold 3 times within the last 5 years and each owner defaulted.

I'll see if I can get the link.


24 posted on 08/31/2006 5:56:28 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: Fred911
Geez.....I heard the same doom and gloom in the 70's.....

Well...it was doom and gloom during the '70s. I lived through the Carter years and watched the adjustable rate people scream and cry in agony. I learned. My rule is FIXED RATE ONLY.

Lots of people buying now did not live in the Carter era and have to relive the pain and agony of history. Oh well.
25 posted on 08/31/2006 5:56:54 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Jaysun

Look at the posts that people are making. Articles like this are an opportunity for people to feel intellectually and morally superior to others.


26 posted on 08/31/2006 5:57:41 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

True.And want everything today.


27 posted on 08/31/2006 5:58:25 PM PDT by QQQQ
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To: Arkinsaw

I didn't even hear of ARMS until the 1980's and they were still rare at that time.


28 posted on 08/31/2006 5:59:03 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Debt is debt. Credit card, mortgage... all the same. It's all a question of the interest rate you pay on the money. And whether or not that interest is tax deductible.

With a little math, it's easy to figure out what is the best scenario for one's financial condition. Now if folks just knew how to use a calculator...


29 posted on 08/31/2006 5:59:44 PM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: Toby06
The Mortgage game has no conscience.

Technically, no business has a conscience. But that isn't what the poster meant.

Regarding what the poster meant, who cares!

Do you think "the car game" has a conscience? Or would the local dealer stick you in a $800 a month payment after rolling $6,000 of negative equity into the loan and not think twice about it? Of course he would do it.

How about the credit card companies charging 22% that gave you the problems in the first place? Do they have a conscience?

No business has a conscience and no industry has a conscience. They all want to "move product" and do it as fast and in as much volume as they can. Period.

If you are a moron and take a bad loan then you are to blame. Not a TV commerical, or the "mortgage game". YOU are to blame.

30 posted on 08/31/2006 6:00:02 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Was that A Farewell To ARMs ???

**GROAN**

31 posted on 08/31/2006 6:01:22 PM PDT by Hazcat
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To: Mini-14
Remember, folks, Business Week is a left-wing rag. Building a story on weepy anecdotes is good for sensationalist journalism but does not capture the real story.

What was interesting is the allegation that the deferred interest carried on balance sheets of lenders is "phantom profits." In fact, the deferred interest can be recaptured by adding it to the principal balance of the mortgage. However, they almost have a point. To the extent people DO NOT have sufficient equity in their homes, the profits will not be realized.

Another claim that investors and lenders have nothing to lose is simply hogwash and anti-capitalist propaganda. Lenders who hold the mortgages in their portfolio can lose, as can investors who buy tranches that contain the riskier loans. Lenders who sold this product to unsophisticated buyers, however, should be horsewhipped and they will reap the whirlwind when the bill comes due.

There is a good story here, but it has been overwhelmed by the bias and ignorance of the people who wrote it.

32 posted on 08/31/2006 6:02:39 PM PDT by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Some people only think of living for the moment, not the future.

Some people have to live in the moment.

33 posted on 08/31/2006 6:04:12 PM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine))
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To: facedown

Exactly. No sympathy from me. If you don't know the rules, stay out of the game.


34 posted on 08/31/2006 6:05:09 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Arkinsaw
I learned. My rule is FIXED RATE ONLY.

I won't roll through my entire story, but if when I purchase my home in 1999 I had gone with a fixed rate mortgage I would have payed far more each month for the next 6 years in many many many thousands of dollars. I bought it with a 1 year ARM. It dropped every year. I refinanced in 2003 at what was arguably "the bottom" (3/1 ARM at 3%!!!) because I knew I would be out of that home and in a new one in less than 3 years. And I was. Am in a new home now. Bought with a fixed.

Different times, situations, scenarios, and plans call for different loan terms.

But an ARM was the best option for me and I save THOUSANDS of dollars by doing it.

35 posted on 08/31/2006 6:05:12 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: Arkinsaw
My rule is FIXED RATE ONLY.

I'm in a 5 year ARM now, and have been for 3.5 years. I'll be moving within the next three months, and knew when I bought the home that it was my timeline. Instead of financing at 6.125%, I have a rate of 5.675%. I saved quite a few dollars as a result.

The key is to understand your plans and the terms of the mortgage, and finance accordingly.

36 posted on 08/31/2006 6:09:35 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Phantom Lord

I know you & RIR are ethical dudes. I also know it's not the fault of 'the mortgage game" when people make bad decisions.


37 posted on 08/31/2006 6:11:55 PM PDT by Toby06
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To: Phantom Lord
YOU are to blame.

Maybe the public schools, that all you SMART guys, let educate our children, had a little something to do with it.

38 posted on 08/31/2006 6:12:01 PM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine))
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To: Hazcat

Next thing you know, some democrat congressman will be
calling for a "Short ARM" investigation.


39 posted on 08/31/2006 6:13:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
Next thing you know, some democrat congressman will be calling for a "Short ARM" investigation.

** Double GROAN!

40 posted on 08/31/2006 6:15:26 PM PDT by Hazcat
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