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To: Oberon

I was just speaking of Carroll's use of the word 'unnatural'. The low-entropy beginning of our cosmos does appear to be very highly improbable...which is not to say it can't happen. Indeed, given a long enough time, just about anything will happen (there are no observers waiting around for most of the time so nobody's counting the hours!).


52 posted on 08/30/2006 7:53:39 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored
The low-entropy beginning of our cosmos does appear to be very highly improbable...

Considering that it's a veritable law of the universe that entropy increases over time, it appears to me that a low-entropy beginning of the cosmos is not only not improbable, but is in fact inescapable.

54 posted on 08/30/2006 7:57:09 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: snarks_when_bored
"The low-entropy beginning of our cosmos does appear to be very highly improbable...which is not to say it can't happen."

Entropy and Order appear to be subjective terms used to mean anything the cosmologist needs it to mean to prove their point. The period after the big bang, whether it be pre- or post-inflationary period was chaotic with huge superhot clumpy clouds of gas and plasma that had no order whatsoever. Once the matter coalesced into into galaxies, stars, and planets then order finally began to appear, and entropy was reduced. Increasing entropy may rule the universe today, but I don't think that was always the case.
98 posted on 08/30/2006 4:35:42 PM PDT by Tiny
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