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To: RadioAstronomer
etlib: But, I suggest, you mean a right and wrong derived from Christian ideas of right and wrong.

RadioAstronomer:Nope. Evolved societal right and wrongs that is required for any society to exist. We developed those as a necessity to species survival.

Since our understanding of the universe was pretty primitive, we “invented” deities to describe or enforce such. I also believe much of the deification thru history was either a power play by folks as they developed organized religions or a god-in-the-gaps mentality. And back then, basically it was almost all “gaps”.

IMHO even emotions, such as love, compassion, etc are strictly evolutionary developments.

Typical atheistic reasoning.

The point is that the Evolved societal right and wrongs differ in time and place. Right and wrong as used by most in the US are derived from Christian principles. Atheists deny that but true none the less.

249 posted on 08/29/2006 4:45:18 PM PDT by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: etlib
" Typical atheistic reasoning.

The assertion that it is atheistic does not make it incorrect. Atheists are no more biased against God than theists are biased for God.

"The point is that the Evolved societal right and wrongs differ in time and place.

Indeed. However there are a number of moral tenets that cross time and culture.

"Right and wrong as used by most in the US are derived from Christian principles. Atheists deny that but true none the less."

Where are those 'Christian principles' from? If evolution is the driving force behind moral beliefs then those 'Christian principles' are a product of evolution. In fact, if evolution is all there is, the belief in God is an evolutionary adaptation.

Remove God from the equation 'completely' and nothing would change. God, Christianity, Islam, Hindu, atheism,... would all be the product of evolution.

297 posted on 08/29/2006 5:46:45 PM PDT by b_sharp (Objectivity? Objectivity? We don't need no stinkin' objectivity.)
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