[Dumb_Ox]

Right-wing believers are still freeloading off the accumulated political and scientific capital of the English Enlightenment.

Yes, Newton was a notorious atheist, as was Locke. Oh wait, no they weren't. Are you thinking of Hobbes?

[headsonpikes]

No, I was thinking of those Englishmen(and Scots), who defied the Monarchy, defied the Church, and by means of the Glorious Revolution and its 17th Century political blossoming, laid the groundwork for the American Revolution and Parliamentary governments in the British Commonwealth.

Which, largely, are the only worthwhile political accomplishments of mankind.

[headsonpikes]

In my post #190 I meant to say, "I was thinking of those Englishmen(and Scots), 'believers and non-believers',....