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THe Secular Right
Real Clear Politics ^ | Aug. 29, 2006 | Robert Trascinski

Posted on 08/29/2006 6:51:14 AM PDT by headsonpikes

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To: ahayes
but the Bible doesn't really have a lot to say about the equality of all people and the rights of all to life, liberty, and property.

Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt steal, thou shalt not covet.

Seems pretty clear.

461 posted on 08/30/2006 12:13:22 PM PDT by Protagoras (Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas)
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462 posted on 08/30/2006 12:14:52 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: King Prout
ascribe

2. to attribute or think of as belonging, as a quality or characteristic

imbecile

Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[im-buh-sil, -suhl or, especially Brit., -seel] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

¡Vnoun 1. Psychology. a person of the second order in a former classification of mental retardation, above the level of idiocy, having a mental age of seven or eight years and an intelligence quotient of 25 to 50. 2. a dunce; blockhead; dolt. ¡Vadjective 3. mentally feeble. 4. showing mental feebleness or incapacity. 5. stupid; silly; absurd. 6. Archaic. weak or feeble.

463 posted on 08/30/2006 12:18:28 PM PDT by Protagoras (Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas)
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To: Protagoras; King Prout

My post gave no opinion about souls whatsoever, human or otherwise.
If you have never been cajoled by a pet for treats, have never been shunned by a pet for scolding, or never had a personal item either coveted or destroyed by a pet, purposefully-

Then you have either never had a pet, or you didn't understand your pet. Pets know right from wrong, they know willful disobedience, they know guilt.


464 posted on 08/30/2006 12:25:08 PM PDT by Dawsonville_Doc
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To: King Prout
1720 alert.
465 posted on 08/30/2006 12:35:43 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Dawsonville_Doc
Then you have either never had a pet, or you didn't understand your pet. Pets know right from wrong, they know willful disobedience, they know guilt.

I have had pets, not that it is relevant, nor are any other personal details about me.

Your personification of animals is in your imagination. Animals have no souls, they are incapable of right or wrong. They are capable of using tactics to get what they want. They are capable of discerning whether their masters will react to their actions, but they are incapable of right or wrong.

People are important, animals are property. They are to be used for human ends.

I'm sorry for people who think that animals and humans are equal, they are not. Such people are delusional.

466 posted on 08/30/2006 12:51:39 PM PDT by Protagoras (Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas)
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To: Protagoras
ascribe 2. to attribute or think of as belonging, as a quality or characteristic

After a reasonable cooling off period, you might wish to revisit your sentence: [Your experiences are not a religion I ascribe to.] and reconsider your usage (not to mention ending the sentence with a preposition).

467 posted on 08/30/2006 12:55:27 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: King Prout

http://www.grammartips.homestead.com/ascribe.html


468 posted on 08/30/2006 12:57:18 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138
Whatever error I make in expressing myself and however awkward the sentence was, it does not qualify me to be called illiterate by an imbecile who can't make his point.

Thanks for your concern.

469 posted on 08/30/2006 1:04:42 PM PDT by Protagoras (Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas)
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To: Protagoras
Whatever error I make in expressing myself and however awkward the sentence was, it does not qualify me to be called illiterate by an imbecile who can't make his point.

Your qualifications are manifest.

470 posted on 08/30/2006 1:08:27 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138

I'll resist the temptation to join the childish nonsense that a genius like you is trying to accomplish.


471 posted on 08/30/2006 1:11:38 PM PDT by Protagoras (Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas)
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To: Protagoras

You are wise.


472 posted on 08/30/2006 1:12:26 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: js1138

Yes, and you are not.


473 posted on 08/30/2006 1:13:20 PM PDT by Protagoras (Lay down with dogs, get up with fleas)
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To: Protagoras

Snappy.


474 posted on 08/30/2006 1:13:50 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Shouldn't evolution have enabled the most highly evolved species (humans) to live in the environment?

What environment would that be, and where?

475 posted on 08/30/2006 1:21:56 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Dawsonville_Doc
Pets know right from wrong, they know willful disobedience, they know guilt.

Really? If a dog pees on the floor and the alpha dog is at work does the dog feel guilty?

476 posted on 08/30/2006 1:22:18 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

If you scold your dog, and later that day find dog crap in your dress shoes, is it an accident? ;-)


477 posted on 08/30/2006 1:24:57 PM PDT by Dawsonville_Doc
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To: Dawsonville_Doc

So now you're telling me that the pack dog craps in the alpha dogs shoes fearlessly, guiltessly and with flourish? LOL. You're a funny guy.


478 posted on 08/30/2006 1:32:01 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

I didn't tell you that at all. Pets tear up our favorite shoes, get into things they've been scolded about repeatedly...then hide, and cower when faced with the Alpha.

Don't tell me you've never seen this behavior. Anyone with children or pets has.

And I never said anything about fearlessly, guiltlessly, or with flourish...


479 posted on 08/30/2006 1:45:38 PM PDT by Dawsonville_Doc
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To: Protagoras

Yeah, if you read the Cliff Notes version. The actual document is much more parenthetical, with all sorts of exemptions. If you're in the right place (Canaan) at the right time (Joshua's genocide) you can kill and steal your heart out!


480 posted on 08/30/2006 1:52:06 PM PDT by ahayes ("If intelligent design evolved from creationism, then why are there still creationists?"--Quark2005)
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