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To: sinkspur; FreedomFighter78
Anyone who would deny constitutional rights based on religious (or non-religious) belief has seriously flawed judgment. You've destroyed your credibility.

You'd like to think so, sinkie. As usual, you're wrong.

FreedomFighter78 has already pointed out the fact that the Constitution covers these people. I think the problem arose when I was discussing Natural Rights and he asked the question of constitutional rights (post #108). At times, the notions of Natural Rights and constitutional rights can be interchangeable, however, this was NOT one of those times.

I sloppily interchanged the two terms, but I was discussing the concept of how an atheist would write a Declaration of Independence or Constitution. Where would their Natural Rights come from? That in itself is the interesting question. FreedomFighter78 feels that the Founders would have been able to carry it off; I disagree.

Perhaps you could shed some light on where an atheist's Natural Rights would come from, or are you just here to sneer and score "points", as is your wont?

146 posted on 08/27/2006 8:08:13 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Hezbollah: Habitat for Humanity with an attitude)
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To: an amused spectator

One, atheist or not, can always take the Kantian route and claim that rights are properties of rational beings, a course that I do not endorse.

My outlook on these things is more aretaic and conservative. We're on a ship at sea that can't be reconstructed from scratch, and many of our institutions contain the latent wisdom slowly accumulated from a process centuries long. We mess with it at our peril.


148 posted on 08/27/2006 8:12:28 PM PDT by JHBowden (Speaking truth to moonbat.)
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To: an amused spectator; sinkspur; FreedomFighter78
Perhaps you could shed some light on where an atheist's Natural Rights would come from, or are you just here to sneer and score "points", as is your wont?

It is mean to ask atheist such questions. Equally mean is to ask self-avowed materialist what matter is.

152 posted on 08/27/2006 8:23:49 PM PDT by A. Pole (The Law of Comparative Advantage: "Americans should not have children and should not go to college")
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To: an amused spectator
I sloppily interchanged the two terms,

Problem solved. Just wanted to make sure you weren't using a religious test to confer constitutional rights.

Good night.

162 posted on 08/27/2006 8:51:05 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: an amused spectator
Perhaps you could shed some light on where an atheist's Natural Rights would come from

Religious rights are protected by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

177 posted on 08/28/2006 10:57:17 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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