Posted on 08/27/2006 6:44:50 AM PDT by mathprof
One of my very first chores was "painting" screens with DDT every spring.
CORRECTION:
It was not the CDC but the Dept of Agriculture that banned the use of DDT in spite of no evidence that it was harmful. It was a purile, deceitful and cowardly political action by a Dept Director who was more concerned about angry Marxists than the health of the food supply.
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Mosquitoes will develop a resistance to DDT at the same time humans develop resistance to Malaria. That is, it will take a long time. In the meantime you can save a lot of lives.
I assume it's the bacteria that lives in the digestive system of mosquitoes that is transferred from the host to a human's bloodstream when the mosquito bites them. People don't get diseases from the mosquito per se, but from bacteria and virus pathogens that are transferred from some other creature when the mosquito first feasts on it then goes and bites a human afterwords.
Scattered considerations in the Malaria and DDT issue:
1. William Ruckelshaus became the United States Environmental Protection Agencys first Administrator when the agency was formed in December 1970 when appointed by President Richard Nixon. During his tenure he oversaw a three-month hearing on DDT, after which he simply ignored the recommendations of scientists (and the draft ruling by the Administrative law Judge) and instituted a politically-inspired DDT ban[citation needed]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Ruckelshaus. I believe he was also a founding member of one of the major latter day environmental organizations during the 1960s as well, perhaps, the Environmental Defense Fund (EDF).
2. There several forms of malaria and only the form found in Africa south of the Sahara is typically quite deadly. Those found in South America and SE Asia are more the classic periodic severe fever types. By the early 1960s most all malaria in, at least, southern Africa had been eliminated through use of DDT. Thanks to the EPA ruling use of DDT essentially ceased in Africa with severe resurgence of malaria including the most fatal type which has now been killing 1-2 million people, mostly children, per year. In other words, while you read this piece they are dying at 2-4 per minute.
3. It would be nice to see how long DDT worked before the mosquitoes became immune to it. We do know that the first preventive treatment, chloroquine is now almost totally ineffective, the 2nd treatment Lariam (brand name) that began to be used in the late 1980s is now ineffectual in many areas of the world, (e.g., western suburbs of Phnom Penh) and the most recent drug, Malerone, is now the drug of chose for those that do not want an extended prophylactic treatment regime with doxycycline. Of course, all these options only apply to international travelers, as all but the richest citizens of the third world are much too poor to use them.
4. There may or may not be more brown pelicans now than there would have been sans a DDT ban. Independent variations in the anchovy populations confuse the data. It does appear that DDT tended to thin eggshells in heavy accumulations. The thinning of the shells has been shown to enhance raptor reproduction as some that would die before of failure to peck through the shell can now escape their egg shell tombs.
5. To me the conclusions seem clear and tragic: many millions of humans in the third world were avoidably killed while thanks to West Nile virus and no DDT even more millions of avoidable bird deaths also occurred.
Why does no one hold people who make such bad decisions up to the light of public ostracism?
"What is mosquito bacteria?"
Humm. In this case a proofreading error.
Should read mosquito larvae
"No one proposes a return to the widespread agricultural use that (ALLEGEDLY)severely harmed ecosystems in the United States and Europe decades ago".
Seems to me that DDT's nefarious reputation was never actually proven in any unbiased study.
Wasn't DDT one of those things it's defender ate without ill affect?
Thank you for clarifying the source of the DDT ban. My memory failed me.
I lived in Appalachia during the 50's. DDT was considered a miracle drug by rural people. It saved the lives of countless poor people. Banning it created serious conflict between people living on the land and people who wanted to control the way folks live on the land.
There was a popular song played on all the local radio stations entitled, "Ain't no flies on Jesus, 'cause He's sprayed with DDT."
It can not be stated strongly enough that the EPA from its beginnings has been and remains an enemy of people who depend on living on the land. The only law more grievous is the Endangered Species Act. Both are the result of a mentality expressed by the woman mentioned at the beginning of this thread who believes that all humans should be eradicated. That is the true agenda of these dispicable laws.
Pelicans are around here in the Gulf Coast of Mississippi big time (post ban). But I don't understand why the rest of the coastal birds survived. This is something I gotta look into, I'm not a enviro whacko, but this brings alot of new questions to my mind.
Does the DDT kill the malaria in the blood of the mosquito or does it kill the mosquito?
That, my friend is the key to these arguments. These idiots will sacrifice thousands of lives,(the elderly and young hardest hit) in the name of environmentalism, and act like they are doing us all a favor.
Read a book by PJ O'Rourke called All the Trouble in the World. He covers this type of thinking perfectly.
Thanks for the post. I assume the microbe isn't a "mongoose" and has the EPA stamp of approval. Along with DDT, it makes a fine weapon in the arsenal against arthropod pests.
I don't think it's a coincidence that Rachel Carson's promotion of the killing of 50 or more million people by outlawing DDT dovetails with the coming of age of the Hippies and the Leftie navel gazers during the '60's.
Rachel killed more people than Mao or Stalin or Pol Pot, perhaps not as many as Ghengis Khan.
'But environmental groups...
Had an interesting conversation with an extreme radical environmentalist the other day at a restaurant.
She said, and I quote, "wouldn't the world be a much better place if the human race was extinct"?
I asked if she was jesting. Turned out she was completely serious.
She followed up with, and again I quote, "It would be no great loss to me if all the humans in the world died tomorrow".
That is so irrational, even attempting to argue an apposing position is futile at best.'
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I understand just exactly the kind of person you're describing. I think a good retort would have been - "well, show your leadership."
"The problem with DDT is that it kills pretty much every insect with which it comes in contact, good, bad, indifferent, it just kills them."
If it kills every insect, would that include Jimmah Cahtah?
"It's smart to use nature against nature.
Yes, the mongoose was introduced to Hawaii and the folks there just love them."
Kudzu - another example.
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