Posted on 08/25/2006 7:47:48 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
ORLANDO, Fla. _Rep. Katherine Harris said this week that God did not intend for the United States to be a "nation of secular laws" and that a failure to elect Christians to political office will allow lawmaking bodies to "legislate sin."
The remarks, published in the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention, unleashed a torrent of criticism from political and religious officials.
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., said she was "disgusted" by the comments "and deeply disappointed in Rep. Harris personally."
Harris, Wasserman Schultz said, "clearly shows that she does not deserve to be a Representative . . ."
State Rep. Irv Slosberg, D-Boca Raton, demanded an apology, saying the statements were "outrageous, even by her standards.
"What is going through this woman's mind?" said Slosberg. "We do not live in a theocracy."
The criticism was not limited to Democrats.
Ruby Brooks, a veteran Tampa Bay Republican activist, said Harris' remarks "were offensive to me as a Christian and a Republican."
"To me, it's the height of hubris," said Brooks, a former Largo Republican Club president and former member of the Pinellas County Republican Executive Committee.
And Jillian Hasner, executive director of the Republican Jewish Coalition, said: "I don't think it's representative of the Republican Party at all. Our party is much bigger and better than Katherine Harris is trying to make it."
The fallout follows an interview published in the Florida Baptist Witness, the weekly journal of the Florida Baptist State Convention. Witness editors interviewed candidates for office asking them to describe their faith and positions on certain issues.
Harris said her religious beliefs "animate" everything she does, including her votes in Congress.
She then warned voters that if they do not send Christians to office, they risk creating a government that is doomed to fail.
"If you are not electing Christians, tried and true, under public scrutiny and pressure, if you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin," she told interviewers, citing abortion and gay marriage as two examples of that sin.
"Whenever we legislate sin," she said, "and we say abortion is permissible and we say gay unions are permissible, then average citizens who are not Christians, because they don't know better, we are leading them astray and it's wrong . . ."
Harris also said the separation of church and state is a "lie we have been told" to keep religious people out of politics.
In reality, she said, "we have to have the faithful in government" because that is God's will. Separating religion and politics is "so wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers," she said.
"And if we are the ones not actively involved in electing those godly men and women," then "we're going to have a nation of secular laws. That's not what our founding fathers intended and that's (sic) certainly isn't what God intended."
Harris campaign spokesman Jennifer Marks would not say what alternative to "a nation of secular laws" Harris would support. She would not answer questions about the Harris interview and, instead, released a two-sentence statement.
"Congresswoman Harris encourages Americans from all walks of life and faith to participate in our government," it stated. "She continues to be an unwavering advocate of religious rights and freedoms."
The notion that non-Christians "don't know better," or are less suited to govern disturbed Rabbi Rick Sherwin, president of the Greater Orlando Board of Rabbis.
"Anybody who claims to have a monopoly on God," he said, "doesn't understand the strength of America."
Sherwin and others also said Harris appeared to be voicing support for a religious state when she said God and the founding fathers did not intend the United States to be a "nation of secular laws."
The alternative, they said, would be a nation of religious laws.
"She's talking about a theocracy," said Sherwin. "And that's exactly opposite of what this country is based on." A clause in the First Amendment prohibits the establishment of a state religion.
Ahmed Bedier, the Central Florida Director of the Council on American Islamic Relations, said he was "appalled that a person who's been in politics this long would hold such extreme views."
Bedier said most Christians would find such comments "shameful."
Harris has always professed a deep Christian faith and long been popular with Christian conservative voters.
In the Senate primary race, she has heavily courted that voting bloc, counting on them to put her into the general election against Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson.
But publicly, she rarely expresses such a fervent evangelical perspective.
University of Virginia political analyst Larry Sabato said the comments will appeal to Christian fundamentalists who typically turn out for Republican primaries.
But he said the strong evangelical tone could alienate non-Christians and more moderate Republicans who had been thinking of supporting Harris.
"It's insane," he said. "But it's not out of character for Katherine Harris."
Harris, a Republican from Longboat Key, is running against Orlando attorney Will McBride, retired Adm. LeRoy Collins and developer Peter Monroe in the GOP Senate primary.
McBride and Collins also did interviews with Florida Baptist Witness. Both said faith is an important part of their lives, but Harris' responses most directly tie her role as a policy maker to her religious beliefs.
Ruby Brooks, the Tampa area GOP activist, said such religious "arrogance" only damages the party.
"This notion that you've been chosen or anointed, it's offensive," said Brooks. "We hurt our cause with that more than we help it."
When I enlisted the recruiter wanted to know what religion I was. I told him "Christian". He said there was no such thing as Christian. I had to be a specific denomination or Protestant, Catholic, etc.
I told him, "Okay, I'm a Pagan. An Apostolic Pagan to be specific."
He listed me as "Christian".
I refuse to identify to a specific Christian based faith...they all act like political groups; paleo-this, neo-that...too damned many self righteous people in both arenas. Just look at all the good "Christians" who want to kill the Mussies.
What was the nexus between Christianity and the Rule against perpetuities? What was the nexus between Chrisianity and the common law rule regarding proximate and actual cause?
I can sort of see being a nutcase candidate but I cannot see spending my own money on it....
Straight Druid or Southern Revisionist Druid? Orthodox Druid?
Did she say it, or not? If NOT, where is the immediate response, that should have been sent out after this was published?
As to the rest, I agree with you, completely.
Give me a break. This is all blown out of proportion just because the person who said it is Harris. Had Rudy made these remarks, you guys would be high-fiving each other.
I've been following Harris since the 2000 election and since we are moving to her district, I have, for the last few years, paid even MORE attention to her. I've always liked what I saw, but lately, she is imploding and saying some very peculiar things.
I'm a reformed Druid. We only practice human sacrifices on the Sabbath.
Story? I'm thinking of branching off and starting a fringe political branch of the Pagan faith...a sort of Constitutional Pagan Party. We'll run on a platform of dancing nude under the full moon, barking at people and building cattle fences for $300,000 a mile.
So my "Get bent" comment is deleted, but PhiKapMom's "Stuff it" comment isn't?
It seems to be running parallel with other "Conservative" darlings like George Allen. This foot-in-mouthitis must be especially contagious during election years.
Which Sabbath is that?
I suspect that she's trying to pander to what she feels is her base either through outright statements or "coded" statements. Either way, she's getting some bad advice.
On the other hand, she's really entertaining.
I was glad to find in your book a formal contradition, at length, of the judiciary usurpation of legislative powers; for such the judges have usurped in their repeated decisions, that Christianity is a part of the common law. The proof of the contrary, which you have adduced, is incontrovertible; to wit, that the common law existed while the Anglo-Saxons were yet Pagans, at a time when they had never yet heard the name of Christ pronounced, or knew that such a character had ever existed.- Thomas Jefferson, 1824
Had Rudy uttered such political stupidity, would be all over it, like white on rice; you pathetic excuse for a FREEPER.
Wow, I'm stunned.
How long did that take you to think up?
Had Rudy made these remarks, you guys would be high-fiving each other.
Rudy was mayor of NYC and ran highly disciplined campaigns. Smoke would come out of his ears and his head would explode if he ever made that kind of statement.
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