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Victor Davis Hanson: Bush’s Communication Problem ...it’s what he’s supposed to be communicating
NRO ^ | August 24, 2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 08/25/2006 5:03:27 AM PDT by Tolik

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1 posted on 08/25/2006 5:03:29 AM PDT by Tolik
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2 posted on 08/25/2006 5:04:04 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik

"But why should it, when the hard hand of American war was not first completely felt — nor the jihadists utterly vanquished and discredited and any who supported them? Unless there is some element of fear, or at least the suggestion of consequences to come for recalcitrance, why should an Iraqi cease his easy support of Hezbollah, his anti-Semitism, or his cheap support for Islamist terrorists around the block? It would be as if we expected to end slavery outright in the Confederacy around 1862, or rid Germany of Nazis around 1943, or persuade the Japanese fascists to vote in 1944 — before such ideologies have been utterly defeated and the steep price for those who tolerated them paid in full."

Ive been saying this for a long while now. We missed the opportunity to come down on the whole region right after 9/11. The liberals were silent, the people whould have put up with the sacrifice involved. But we decided to make war on the cheap and are now paying for it.


3 posted on 08/25/2006 5:09:51 AM PDT by DeusExMachina05
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To: Tolik
"But why should it, when the hard hand of American war was not first completely felt — nor the jihadists utterly vanquished and discredited and any who supported them? Unless there is some element of fear, or at least the suggestion of consequences to come for recalcitrance, why should an Iraqi cease his easy support of Hezbollah, his anti-Semitism, or his cheap support for Islamist terrorists around the block? It would be as if we expected to end slavery outright in the Confederacy around 1862, or rid Germany of Nazis around 1943, or persuade the Japanese fascists to vote in 1944 — before such ideologies have been utterly defeated and the steep price for those who tolerated them paid in full."

For us to win this war, we need to show the enemy that we are willing to do what ever it takes to win. In WWII we were committed to winning even if that meant total destruction of a country and everyone in it. Our smart bombs and fear of killing civilians has made us appear weak. We are now in a situation where the enemy can win simply by out lasting us and since most Democrats would like to see the US lose, all they have to do is keep up their campaign until a Democrat is elected President.
4 posted on 08/25/2006 5:15:39 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: Tolik
Unspoken here is the effect of crowd behavior on the war and the President.

When President Clinton was facing impeachment his popularity ratings went up! The reason was no public approval of illegal and immoral conduct but rather the crowd recognition that President Clinton was functioning admirably in spite of the dangers he faced. In a word they respected his "guts." From a dissolute narcissist he was transformed into the embattled leader.

Now, many will question the previous assertion, I would bet that if the President or his people could portray the President as battling to save American lives in the face of MSM, liberal and far right political efforts to defeat us in Iraq, the President's approval would soar.

Crowds when they select a leader want a hero. That is why the antiwar thing started the day President Bush flew into that aircraft carrier. The RATS twisted the ship's poster of "Mission Accomplished" into the President's and it has been down hill ever since. Intuitively the RATs realized a young President in battle dress was a powerful image that needed remedying. Since then they have worked overtime to picture the war as a failure and the President as a cowardly, self-serving politician. In no small measure they have succeeded.

We behave differently in crowds. More emotional. More patterned on inherited, basic responses. More likely to be misunderstood by leaders.

Picture President Bush as an embattled leader of a just cause designed to protect American lives and fortunes and the issue will quickly lean his way. How to do it? That I cannot tell you.

5 posted on 08/25/2006 5:20:36 AM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: DeusExMachina05

In a nutshell:


"...jihadism could not imperil us were it not for the “moderates” who tolerate and appease it — while this is the very same group that we feel duty-bound to offer an alternative other than theocracy or dictatorship."


God Bless GWBush. I don't know how he does what he does, honestly!


6 posted on 08/25/2006 5:32:19 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: DeusExMachina05

yep. I bet if we knocked the $hit out of them, when they recovered some, they would find the Chicoms or some other enemy of America to be the "Great Satan." Then we could give diplomacy a chance.


7 posted on 08/25/2006 5:34:44 AM PDT by Harrius Magnus (Self-loathing, self-destructive, and selfish = commonalities of Leftists and Jihadists. Not Welcome.)
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To: Tolik
What, then, is needed...is more articulation and explanation. The word “liberal” — as in promoting liberal values abroad, and reminding the world of the traditions of liberal tolerance...

But we aren't promoting 'liberal values', we're promoting process democracy -- and parliamentary process democracy at that, which is how the Afghan Constitution comes to say that no civil law can contravene Islamic law. The Bush administration really has not thought out its objectives.

8 posted on 08/25/2006 5:36:05 AM PDT by Grut
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No, the word "liberal" does not need to be used more often, it is long past saving.

What is needed is Muslim leadership. Free Iraqis need to be on the tube 24/7 aggressively calling the left names from a position of unassailable moral authority as the victims of Saddam, and demanding they shut up and stop supporting the murderous rogues killing Iraqi children. They need to be out staging photo-ops, calling for blood, running show trials. They need to execute Saddam yesterday. They need to be denouncing the heretics as the legions of hell and thanking soldiers and Marines, and not in a Baghdad cafe or alley during a patrol, but on national television every single news cycle. If CNN won't do it, the army should do it and feed the tape to Fox.

If the American people saw Iraqi graditude they would be willing to move heaven and earth to help them. When they only see cynicism and bombings and spokesmen for CAIR harping on about backlashes and discrimination, they are right to want the whole lot of them to go to hell.

There is no victory in a modern war without political victory, and there is no political victory without shaping perception, and there is no shaping of perception without deliberate daily doses of your side of the story. It is as important a branch of service as the light infantry and we need to get bloody serious about it. Currently, it isn't even amateur hour, our side simply hasn't shown up and only the enemy team is even on the field. They think having two clerks who type up press releases is an information operation.

How ridiculous is it that it is left to bloggers to expose fake enemy agitprop, their practices about terrorist stringers, to report what our troops actually go through daily, to find the occasional Iraqi? Why aren't members of the Iraqi government on every Fox News panel? Why isn't every agent for the defeatists arrested and charged with sedition, and if a foreigner have his papers pulled and asked to leave - by the Iraqis, not us?

Can't anybody here play this game?

9 posted on 08/25/2006 5:38:34 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: FightThePower!
For us to win this war, we need to show the enemy that we are willing to do what ever it takes to win. In WWII we were committed to winning even if that meant total destruction of a country and everyone in it. Our smart bombs and fear of killing civilians has made us appear weak. What, exactly, do you propose we do - in terms of concrete actions, not rethortic.

*Exactly* what would you propose as a strategy which:

1) Is achievable with our current military.

2) Is politically salable to the American people.

and

3) What do you suppose will be the result in ten years?

10 posted on 08/25/2006 5:55:30 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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To: Tolik

It's hard to explain Muslim pathologies and culture to Americans and others who don't even understand their own history and culture.


11 posted on 08/25/2006 5:58:13 AM PDT by Gritty (If this is a ‘long war’ it needs rhetoric that can go the distance. Today it fails that test-Mk Stey)
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To: JasonC
While many on the left deny existence of the war against Jihadists (or choose your favorite name), even less number of people left and right alike understand that it is info-war that we must win. Nobody can resist us in a hot war, but info war we just not fighting at all, while our enemies are getting better and better in manipulating our open society and weakest parts to their advantage. Propaganda works; and counter-propaganda works as well. But as you say: "There is no victory in a modern war without political victory, and there is no political victory without shaping perception, and there is no shaping of perception without deliberate daily doses of your side of the story. It is as important a branch of service as the light infantry and we need to get bloody serious about it. Currently, it isn't even amateur hour, our side simply hasn't shown up and only the enemy team is even on the field" Nailed It!
12 posted on 08/25/2006 5:58:46 AM PDT by Tolik
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13 posted on 08/25/2006 6:00:06 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Tolik
I've been doing some thinking on this.

IMHO, the reason Bush can't communicate is because he does not believe what he is saying. When Reagan spoke, you knew he believed what he was saying. He had reflected on it and come to the conclustion that the conservative philosophy was the correct one.

Not so for Bush.

14 posted on 08/25/2006 6:40:45 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Tolik

His analysis should always be read.


15 posted on 08/25/2006 6:48:48 AM PDT by AmericaUnite
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Tony Blair can explain things quite well. W should invite him over to address Congress, the DBM and the general public on the issue.


16 posted on 08/25/2006 6:49:49 AM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: Tolik

Interesting that he uses the word "liberal" in its classical sense.

All in all, a depressing essay.


17 posted on 08/25/2006 6:56:54 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Don't mix alcopops and ufo's)
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To: DeusExMachina05; FightThePower!
What Bush will be handing over to the next President to fight the War On Terror is the ability to gather intel and move our troops anywhere in the 250,000 sq/mi of Afghanistan, and the 168,754 sq/mi of Iraq.

No American President will give that up.

18 posted on 08/25/2006 7:04:40 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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What is left mostly unnoticed is that US Military, which is already called the most adaptable and most capable, is getting on-the-job training it did not have for decades. Their experience and professionalism can be proved decisive in the years to come.


19 posted on 08/25/2006 7:11:14 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: DeusExMachina05
But we decided to make war on the cheap and are now paying for it.

I think we are paying for the decision to make compassionate war. While I was watching TV during the "Shock and Awe Campaign" I noticed that bombs were falling on one side of the Euphrates while traffic was flowing normally on the other. The Baghdadis did not have to fear us becasue they knew we weren't targeting anyone but Saddam's administration.

They fear the insurgents more and so they support them.

There is no easy solution - there is always a cost for being the good guy.

Shalom.

20 posted on 08/25/2006 7:18:20 AM PDT by ArGee (The Ring must not be allowed to fall into Hillary's hands!)
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