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To: dread78645; Tribune7
GSR is a peer-reviewed journal.

But in any case, I have copies of both German versions of the Hitler monologues, and have examined Carrier's claims personally. He is absolutely correct; the English version contains anti-Christian passages that are in neither of the two German versions and were apparently inserted by a translator. If Tribune7 would like to come out to Central Washington and examine them, in the unlikely event he knows enough German do do so, or to call me a liar to my face, we can arrange that.

653 posted on 08/24/2006 3:36:34 PM PDT by DanDenDar
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To: DanDenDar; dread78645
But in any case, I have copies of both German versions of the Hitler monologues,

If Carrier claims that Nazism in general . . . was without doubt a Christian movement and cites the belt buckles and the Reichsconcordat he's not someone who can be taken seriously.

Further, even if you were to take his claims as correct i. e. we still have Hitler saying

"Christianity teaches 'transubstantiation,' which is the maddest thing ever concocted by a human mind in its delusions, a mockery of all that is godly."

And equating Christianity to syphilis as the two diseases that destroyed Rome.

And Christ was an Aryan.6 But Paul used his teachings to mobilize the underworld and organize a proto-bolshevism. With its breakdown, the beautiful clarity of the ancient world was lost.

It seems to me you are pretty much splitting hairs. Hitler was not a Christian and hated Christianity.

Then there is this as per Carrier, who is s a member of the Internet Infidels with numerous writings on the Secular Web:

There is no "disease of Christianity." Rather, in place of that phrase is a reference to what Hitler says in the preceding sentences, which Trevor-Roper's English doesn't even include: the idea of expediency, survival of the fittest,

I guess Hitler was a Darwinist, after all.

661 posted on 08/24/2006 4:44:06 PM PDT by Tribune7
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