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To: keithtoo

Primary source documentation please.

That is something Hitler wrote or spoke publically, not a quote from a private conversation that no one else ever reported on.


35 posted on 08/22/2006 2:34:29 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: From many - one.

He doesn't need any documentation my friend. One can judge Hitler and the Nazi's by their actions - they were clearly not Christians.


146 posted on 08/22/2006 6:12:08 PM PDT by plain talk
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"And even fewer paused to reflect that under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann, and Himmler, who were backed by Hitler, the Nazi regime intended eventually to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists. As Bormann, one of the men closest to Hitler, said publically in 1941, 'National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable'.

"What the Hitler government envisioned for Germany was clearly set out in a thirty-point program for the 'National Reich Church' drawn up during the war by Rosenberg, an outspoken pagan, who among his other offices, held that of 'the Fuehrer's Delegate for the Entire Intellectual and Philosophical Education and Instruction for the National Socialist Party.' A few of the thirty articles convey the essentials:

"1. The National Reich Church of Germany categorically claims the exclusive right and the exclusive power to control all churches within the borders of the Reich: it declares these to be the national churches of the German Reich.

"5. The National Church is determined to exterminate irrevocably....the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800.

"7. The National Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains, or priests, but National Reich orators are to speak in them.

"13. The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany...

"14. The National Church declares that to it, and therefore to the German nation, it has been decided that the Fuehrer's Mein Kampf is the greatest of all documents. It....not only contains the greatest but it embodies the purest and truest ethics for the present and future life of our nation.

"18. The National Church will clear away from its altars all crucifixes, Bibles, and pictures of saints.

"19. On the altars there must be nothing but Mein Kampf (to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book) and to the left of the altar a sword.

"30. On the day of its foundation, the Christian Cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals, and chapels...and it must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol, the swastika."

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, pg 240 (Author W.L. Shirer)

"The party [Kerrl said] stands on the basis of Positive Christianity, and Positive Christianity IS National Socialism.....National Socialism is the doing of God's will....God's will reveals itself in German blood....Dr. Zoellner and Count Galen [the Catholic bishop of Meunster] have tried to make clear to me that Christianity consists in faith in Christ as the Son of God. That makes me laugh....No, Christianity is not dependent upon the Apostle's Creed....True Christianity is represented by the party, and the German people are now called by the party and especially by the Fuehrer to a real Christianity....The Fuehrer is the herald of a new revelation."

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, pg 239 (Author W.L. Shirer)


223 posted on 08/22/2006 11:27:28 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid - Kierkegaard)
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