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To: Zionist Conspirator; js1138; FreedomProtector; Ichneumon

Whether or not Darwin used race as a generic term applicable to all living things/merely arbitrary categories, or race is restricted to categories of just human beings is irrelevent to demonstation that Hitler's philosophy which led to the Holocaust was based Darwin's naturalistic evolution.

Darwin's idea that evolution means the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life did indeed eventually led to Nazism and the Jewish holocaust - even if Darwin himself would have been appalled at the thought.


Hilter was a believer in evolution:

Sir Arthur Keith was a British anthropologist, an atheistic evolutionist and an anti-Nazi, but he drew this chilling conclusion:

‘The German Führer, as I have consistently maintained, is an evolutionist; he has consciously sought to make the practice of Germany conform to the theory of evolution.’

Reference
Keith, A., Evolution and Ethics, Putnam, NY, USA, p. 230, 1947.


Hitler used Evolutionary Theory to Justify the Holocaust

In Mein Kampf, Hitler used the German word for evolution (Entwicklung) many times, citing "lower human types." He criticized the Jews for bringing "Negroes into the Rhineland" with the aim of "ruining the white race by the necessarily resulting ization." He spoke of "Monstrosities halfway between man and ape" and lamented the fact of Christians going to "Central Africa" to set up "Negro missions," resulting in the turning of "healthy . . . human beings into a rotten brood of s." In his chapter entitled "Nation and Race," he said, "The stronger must dominate and not blend with the weaker, thus sacrificing his own greatness. Only the born weakling can view this as cruel, but he, after all, is only a weak and limited man; for if this law did not prevail, any conceivable higher development (Hoherentwicklung) of organic living beings would be unthinkable." A few pages later, he said, "Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."

"From the ‘Preservation of favored races in the struggle for life' it was a short step to the preservation of favored individuals, classes or nations - and from their preservation to their glorification . . . Thus, it has become a portmunteau of nationalism, imperialism, militarism, and dictatorship, of the cults of the hero, the superman, and the master race . . . recent expressions of this philosophy, such as Mein Kampf are, unhappily, too familiar to require exposition here." - Gertrude Himmelfarb, Social Darwinism in American Thought


Without the philisophical ideas that man is nothing more than an intellectual animal, he is not distinst from animals in any way, AND man is so intelligent and evolved so that he should direct his future evolution Hitler would have never happened in history as we know it.

These ideas stand in antithesis to the philisophical ideas that man is created, man is created special, unique from animals, in the image of God, and the purpose in life is to glorify God and enjoy him forever.





315 posted on 08/23/2006 12:52:58 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: FreedomProtector

"Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live."

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318 posted on 08/23/2006 12:59:49 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: FreedomProtector

So if Hitler was such a good Darwinian, why did he kill the brightest, most talented and productive members of his society and promote the breeding of the Nordics, who, compared to the Jews were retarded? That's not very scientific.

And why are his racial ideas indistinguishable from centuries of German Lutheran antisemitism?

If he was being scientific rather than responding to existing religious bigotry, why pick on a religious group? Why not administer IQ tests and gas the less talented?


319 posted on 08/23/2006 1:00:10 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: FreedomProtector
I understand where you're coming from, but please understand that whenever you try to justify a belief in G-d because it serves a utilitarian purpose in promoting morality or brotherhood, you are undermining the concept that G-d is the author and source of all morality, and without Him it cannot exist (because morality is determined by His rules alone).

I do agree with the evolutionists who point out the unhappy, ironic, and inappropriate fact that many creationists are racists. However, this is no more nonsensical than evolutionists being anti-racists, since only G-d can define racism (or anything else) as right or wrong and in the world they believe in this cannot happen. They in fact are merely invoking a subjective hang-up for utilitarian purposes (evolutionism causes morality and brotherhood).

I also find it most interesting that whites who interpret the Bible literally are accused of racism while Blacks who do so are not. In fact, they're barely acknowledged. But then, that's easy to understand considering that they've always been AWOL on this issue.

329 posted on 08/23/2006 1:10:55 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Shofetim veshoterim titen-lekha bekhol she`areykha . . .)
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