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Study: Slain Dundalk mother part of troubling SWAT team trend
The Baltimore Examiner ^ | Aug 18, 2006 | Luke Broadwater

Posted on 08/19/2006 9:08:27 AM PDT by JTN

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Via Radley Balko's personal website, where he writes:

Baltimore police seem really defensive about the Noel case. Two called in to the Ron Smith show earlier this week to excoriate me for daring to suggest that sending a SWAT team into a family home at 5am after finding marijuana seeds in the household trash probably isn't an advisable police tactic.

Another Baltimore SWAT officer just berated me in an email in response to the Examiner article.

You'd think that the prevailing sentiment among Baltimore cops in reaction to an innocent woman's needless death at the hands of one of their colleagues would be empathy, perhaps even regret. Intead, thus far the reaction I've experienced has been to lash out at me for arguing that the case merits reevaluating the way Baltimore-area police use paramilitary tactics.


1 posted on 08/19/2006 9:08:28 AM PDT by JTN
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To: freepatriot32; Wolfie

Ping


2 posted on 08/19/2006 9:08:50 AM PDT by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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According to the family’s federal lawsuit, officers had found “trace amounts of drugs” in trash cans outside of the house.

WTF?? This is really reaching in my book. On another note who would not respond in the same way at 4:30am as a home owner? Sick...really sick CYA tactics.

3 posted on 08/19/2006 9:16:53 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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On another note who would not respond in the same way at 4:30am as a home owner? Sick...really sick CYA tactics.

If anyone breaks into my house at 5am, then kicks in my bedroom door he's going to do whatever he does next with a face full of buckshot.

4 posted on 08/19/2006 9:22:38 AM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: beltfed308

If someone breaks down my door at 4:30AM, I ain't about to not defend myself no matter how many times they yell "Police." If I was a home invader, that's just the tactic I would use.


5 posted on 08/19/2006 9:23:08 AM PDT by cydcharisse
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To: beltfed308

"On another note who would not respond in the same way at 4:30am as a home owner?"

We have been having some hme invasion robberies here in Houston.

Someone busts down my door at 4:30 in the morning as they come down the hall they are going to be met by my 12 guage shotgun.

I feel for our cops and thank them for their service but some of these guys truly get pumping on andrenalin and some of them are truly wannabes. I know SWAT tries to keep the wannabes out but they are not always sucessful.

Fine line we have to walk.


6 posted on 08/19/2006 9:23:59 AM PDT by Syntyr (Food for the NSA Line Eater -> "terrorist" "bomb" "plot" "kill" "overthrow" "coup de tas")
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To: JTN
Trend?

It's been going on for at least a decade.

7 posted on 08/19/2006 9:26:17 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: JTN

http://www.theagitator.com/archives/025953.php has some more information.


8 posted on 08/19/2006 9:27:35 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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And a SWAT team was needed for some seeds???!


9 posted on 08/19/2006 9:28:35 AM PDT by Freeport
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All this over a couple doobs...

It's a damn shame this country is so whacked....

10 posted on 08/19/2006 9:30:35 AM PDT by sit-rep (http://trulineint.com/latestposts.asp)
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The whole thing adds up to shoot first it seems. Of course we would be dead if it was the police as no-one would survive.
11 posted on 08/19/2006 9:32:09 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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Yes but think how much safer we are now that those seeds have been confiscated


12 posted on 08/19/2006 9:32:52 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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Just think if the military had done that to a terrorist. They would be in jail and awaiting court martial or even the firing squad. There is absolutely NO reason for these people to do this but they have the guns and they will NOT be held accountable so there is nothing we as citizens (who are suppose to be in charge of our government) can do.
Except elect people who will put a stop to this type of police brutality and torture and I have not seen any of them yet.
13 posted on 08/19/2006 9:34:18 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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Recently had a "big bust" in a small town here in IN. Dug through the guys trash for months, used heat seeking technology with one man planes and ultralights to spot the grow room.

Don't think they used SWAT team, but most dozens of cops to catch a 61 year old guy with chronic back problems and 4 immature plants in his basement.


14 posted on 08/19/2006 9:36:02 AM PDT by digger48
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Our militarized local and federal law enforcement bodies are the standing army our founders feared.


15 posted on 08/19/2006 9:37:49 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: JTN

Some people deserve respect, others demand it.


16 posted on 08/19/2006 9:39:46 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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I also think that the seeds were most likely planted just as weapons are planted after a killing by the KGB. The police should stop playing Nazi SS and go back to being protectors of the innocent.
17 posted on 08/19/2006 9:39:55 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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“When you give domestic police officers military equipment, train them in military tactics and then tell them they’re fighting a War on Drugs, it’s not surprising that they behave like they’re in the military.”

I have seen training given to police officers instructing them that computer evidence, like drug evidence, merits such no-knock tactics since there is some chance that a malefactor might be able to erase evidence before it can be seized.

18 posted on 08/19/2006 9:40:25 AM PDT by snowsislander
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From me...they'll get what's behind door number one...what u say Monty, that's right... "13 rounds of .45 caliber hollow point..."...and if that buys me time to get to the closet...what is that u say monty, what's behind door number two? "30 rounds of 5.56 millimeter...is what the home invader will aslo receive as a "departing" gift..."

(Not counting reloads, here)


19 posted on 08/19/2006 9:40:30 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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>One officer kicked in her bedroom door with his boot and, without identifying himself or telling Noel to drop her weapon, shot her three times, including once after she had slumped to the floor, according to the suit.

The Baltimore County State’s Attorney’s Office ruled that Noel’s death was justified,<

Can't have citizens protecting themselves from intruders, you know.


20 posted on 08/19/2006 9:40:57 AM PDT by Darnright (http://www.irey.com/)
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