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1 posted on 08/17/2006 9:06:44 AM PDT by sinkspur
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These guy's just don't understand (or maybe they do), in a time of war things that hurt the United States HELP THE ENEMY!!!This war hasn't truly yet begun. Afganistan was merely a skirmish, Iraq was a mini battle/live action training, Iran will be next-The real beginning of the war. When a kook left wing judge issues such an ignorant ruling the terrorists are emboldened and our forces disheartened. What a shame we allow such nonsense(treason) to come from a federal court. Impeachment articles should be started immediately against this judge.
425 posted on 08/17/2006 3:00:48 PM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER
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To: sinkspur

A federal district judge in Detroit...

Dearbornistan, again.

Is he a muzzie?


431 posted on 08/17/2006 3:13:01 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Fjord

Here, this is by one of the best legal minds in the country. He explains it far better then I can.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685444/posts

Judge Not (NSA ruling-Mark Levin opinion)


441 posted on 08/17/2006 3:26:51 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com anything i WANT to say would prolly get me banned... just damn.
454 posted on 08/17/2006 3:46:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: sinkspur

I hope an emergency appeal has been filed on this. Every minute this ruling stands it puts our lives in danger.


456 posted on 08/17/2006 3:48:18 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: sinkspur

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the 6th Circuit already rule on this? I know there are four Federal Circuit Courts that have already affirmed the authority of the President to conduct warrantless searches for the purpose of gathering foreign intelligence. Wasn't the 6th one of these four? I think the other three are the 4th, 9th, and 11th.

If this is the case, then this judge cannot overturn a higher ruling of her own court.


462 posted on 08/17/2006 3:55:24 PM PDT by Hoodat ( ETERNITY - Smoking, or Non-smoking?)
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To: sinkspur

ignore this ruling and ban the ACLU


465 posted on 08/17/2006 4:29:16 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: sinkspur
Here is some more info on the case (from yahoo news-emphasis mine):

One of the plaintiffs in the case, Detroit immigration attorney Noel Saleh, said the NSA program had made it difficult to represent his clients, some of whom the government accuses of terrorist connections.

Saleh, a leader in Michigan's large Arab-American community, also said he believes many conversations between people in the community and relatives in Lebanon were monitored in recent weeks as people here sought news of their families amid the violence in the Middle East.

"People have the right to be concerned about their family, to check on the welfare of their family and not be spied on by the government," he said.

Finally for those who may not know all the facts about the NSA program: They are NOT bypassing the FISA courts - NSA only get leads - no criminal investigation. And I'll quote from AJ Strata:

The NSA was going through FISA since 9-11. Prior to 9-11 no intelligence information could be used to gain a surveillance warrant through FISA (the Wall). In fact, the NSA would not pass any leads to the FBI-FISA regarding potential terrorists they uncovered in the US because of this restriction. The change after 9-11 was allow the FBI to get the leads and investigate. The NSA still monitors just the terrorists and anyone talking to them until a FISA warrant is passed which provides for complete surveillance of all communications on the person in the US.
475 posted on 08/17/2006 5:53:23 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: sinkspur

The president is the commander in chief and is charged with immediate response to immediate needs.

The judge is without understanding and wisdom.


477 posted on 08/17/2006 5:57:39 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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Liberals are a National Security risk.
478 posted on 08/17/2006 6:01:51 PM PDT by do the dhue (If you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. Just say 'no' to demorats!)
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Female Afro Amererican apointee of Jimmy Carter. This will go to SCOTUS and she'll be B**ch Slapped.


490 posted on 08/17/2006 6:40:22 PM PDT by scannell
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Imagine that! A liberal democrat appointed by Peanut Carter ruling the way the liberal democrats at the ACLU wanted her to.

What a shocking surprise.

The liberals at the ACLU shopped around for this judge and got the ruling they wanted. Now they're going to get the slapping down by the appeals court that they deserve.

Meanwhile, the Bush administration just carries on with the duty of keeping us safe from Islamofacists.

I know which party I am voting for in the next election.


554 posted on 08/17/2006 11:11:21 PM PDT by Bullish ( The pig headed monkeys of Islam can kiss my grits!)
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If this is not a signal for the some of the single issue Conservatives obsessed by the Immigration issue and others supporting Libs like Lieberman to quit it and move their support behind GOP candidates, then i dont know what else would take.

The issue is JUDGES, and it is pivotal that Republican majority Control the Senate and the House.


559 posted on 08/18/2006 2:52:26 AM PDT by GregH
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To: sinkspur

The judge is a Carter appointee.

I think the administration wins on appeal.


560 posted on 08/18/2006 2:54:32 AM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: sinkspur

Absolutely an absurd decision, as the courts are now ruling on moot, hypothetical cases to try and impose their will on elected officials with whom they disagree.

Total abuse of judicial power.

If the ACLU had an actual victim of wiretapping, a real life terrorist who suffered real damages by having their plans twarted by this program , the judge's decision would have still been wrong, but it wouldn't have been as tyrannical.

But here , there is no aggrieved party.

Its particularly ironic that the judge refers to the president in the ruling as a would be "king", when reality is that the judge is assuming that very rule.


562 posted on 08/18/2006 3:27:39 AM PDT by I_Like_Spam
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This pathetic decision is going to be overturned so fast it won't even be done on one side. Just some pathetic lower level old liberal activist Judge, presuming to try and change crutial ingelligence gathering policy during a war, is disgusting. This is why the founders made it able to impeach Judges. She is beyond her authority, and has no leg to stand on with this ruling.

It's so clearly going to be overturned as soon as it gets to the Appeals Court, or the Supreme Court. I mean, it's been proved that the only calls monitored are ones where at least one of the parties is in a nation that has terrorists in it, and no call monitored has both parties IN the U.S.. And that program is what stopped the five Muslims in Miami last month that wanted to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago. And the head of the program has made it clear that the program has stopped DOZENS of other attacks before they happened. And it's been mentioned several times that it played a hand in stopping the attack that was to take place from Heathrow. All that good it's done, and no ones civil rights violated, and STILL some extremist radical liberal Judge who apparently cares more about not violating rights of terrorists than protecting the general public, says the program has to stop because it's unconstitutional.

I read the U.S. Constitution and its Amendments regularly, and I've not seen any sentence in there that would remotely indicate, even vaguely, that the Government can't monitor communications between either citizen or foreign national in the U.S., and someone in a foreign country, if those communications are believed to be relating to an attack or some other hostile act to be carried out on American soil. I don't understand how people can make decisions so detrimental to their own safety and everyone elses safety, and then be pleased about making them. It's crazy. Oh well, as is usually the case, the media and the libs will hopp and hollar, and then in not too long a time, it will be overturned, and ignored, and the liberals will pretend that it wasn't over turned, or call Bush a Nazi again. They always either do one of those two things. Most Americans don't mind this program since it was made clear many months ago that it never monitors calls made and received both in the U.S.. So this is a really stupid fight for liberals to pick, just like on all other major issues, the Democrats are on the wrong side of the majority of the American people. Stupid liberals. They're going to lose this one too. :)

568 posted on 08/18/2006 9:19:50 AM PDT by TexasPatriot8 (Irrational is the person who is offended by the mention of a God that he doesn't believe exists.)
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Un effin believable these liberal traitorous judges. Thanks Jimmah....your legacy lives on.


579 posted on 08/18/2006 7:14:10 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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