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Teenagers to serve time - after football
The Columbus Dispatch ^
| August 16, 2006
| Holly Zachariah
Posted on 08/16/2006 10:04:23 AM PDT by flutters
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To: Diddle E. Squat; Eric in the Ozarks
Kenton is pretty far north of Columbus....
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posted on
08/16/2006 10:55:24 AM PDT
by
MikefromOhio
(aka MikeinIraq - I BEEEEEEELLLLLLIIEEEEVVVEEEEEEE in the conspiracy of the flying knee....)
To: untrained skeptic
According to the law, it is the driver's responsibility to drive in a manner in which they can stop or avoid such obstacles.
Yup, keep it under ten MPH at all times....
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posted on
08/16/2006 10:56:39 AM PDT
by
P-40
(Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
To: untrained skeptic
Given the limited details given about the placement of the deer (over a hill, on a sharp curve, etc.) you might wish to "rethink" your comments placing the majority of the blame on the driver.
To: Hydroshock
Give us a break. We have a lot more sense than this.
There have been several football players involved in legal issues over the last year or so just around the DFW area. I know of only one that was originally going to play (and keep in mind, this was AFTER his punishment), but the coach got so much pressure I believe he relented and kept him off the team. There was a transfer involved since the school the kid had gone to kicked him out of school, I believe.
The rest of the guys didn't play.
Since judges are elected in Texas, I dare say nothing approaching this would have occurred.
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posted on
08/16/2006 10:59:14 AM PDT
by
1L
To: Eric in the Ozarks; Diddle E. Squat
This wasn't in Columbus, it was in Kenton, Ohio (northwest Ohio, near Toledo.)
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posted on
08/16/2006 10:59:16 AM PDT
by
Polyxene
(For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
To: untrained skeptic
Wow, good post. Very good points!
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posted on
08/16/2006 11:05:26 AM PDT
by
piytar
To: flutters
I wonder what the legal penalty is in Ohio for placing something in the road that causes a severe injury accident.
What is the penalty for derailing a train?
To: untrained skeptic
Do you think that the parents of the injured kids should be able to sue the football players or their parents for damages?
To: untrained skeptic
"Their "prank" was irresponsible and did pose some risk of danger to drivers, but they had no way of knowing that a driver would be driving so recklessly that they would swerve off the road and roll their car to avoid the painted decoy deer.""According to the Response Insurance group, car-deer crashes nationwide kill 150 people and a half-million deer each year, and cause an average of $2,000 in vehicle damage per crash. In Wisconsin, 11 people were killed in car-deer crashes in 2004."
Swerving to avoid what appears to be a full-sized deer in the road is not what I would call "driving recklessly", given that they could have been killed had they hit a real deer. We have the benefit of 20-20 hindsight, knowing they could have hit that decoy with little damage.
The fact that the driver was only 18 and lost control of the car in no way mitigates the fact that he attempted to do the correct thing.
The foolish "pranksters" got off easy. Plus, delaying that easy sentence made matters even worse.
To: Wolfie
> I'm sure its not the first lesson these two have gotten in "the privileged life of a jock" genre.
Yeah, but it'll probably be the last. For most jocks, High School is the pinnacle of their lives. All downhill from there...
BWAAAHAHAHAHAAAA! Nerds rule!
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posted on
08/16/2006 11:16:37 AM PDT
by
orionblamblam
(I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
To: Warren_Piece
Ohio is every bit as crazy about football as Texas. Spent my college years there (late '70s). You could drive around for miles and see nothing but pastures, cornfields and the like, and then, off in the distance would appear an eerie glow.
High school football stadium on friday nights.
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posted on
08/16/2006 11:17:19 AM PDT
by
dmz
To: Warren_Piece
Ohio and Pennsylvania are just as football crazy as anywhere in the South.
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posted on
08/16/2006 11:18:34 AM PDT
by
MikefromOhio
(aka MikeinIraq - I BEEEEEEELLLLLLIIEEEEVVVEEEEEEE in the conspiracy of the flying knee....)
To: MplsSteve
Ohio is every bit as hardcore a football state as the ones you mention.
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posted on
08/16/2006 11:21:46 AM PDT
by
dmz
To: untrained skeptic
"A football scholarship may also be these kid's only real hope of going to college."They give out scholarships to "pranksters" who have served time in juvenile detention? If I was a relative of one of those injured, I'd make sure, by anonymous letter, that the college was aware of their criminal past.
To: untrained skeptic
According to the law, it is the driver's responsibility to drive in a manner in which they can stop or avoid such obstacles. Their "prank" was irresponsible and did pose some risk of danger to drivers, but they had no way of knowing that a driver would be driving so recklessly that they would swerve off the road and roll their car to avoid the painted decoy deer. Their actions did contribute to the accident, and they bear some responsibility. However, the majority of the responsibility for what happened lies with the driver. The vast majority of outrage about this incident isn't because of the prank that they performed, but because of the severity of the accident, and if the driver was operating the vehicle safely there would not have been an accident. At worst the driver would have done some relatively minor damage to his vehicles when striking the decoy. They are getting 60 days locked up and 500 to 1500 hours of community service. That's not exactly a slap on the wrist. The kids need to take responsibility for what they did, but they don't deserve to have the responsibility for mistakes of the driver layered on top of them that were not reasonably foreseeable. Deer and other animals jumping out in front of a car on a rural road is not exactly rare. In this case the fake deer was even stationary. The foolish "pranksters" should not have done this, and may should have possibly foreseen that they were putting drivers at some risk of damaging their cars, but I can't see how an accident of this magnitude would result if the driver were driving safely and was in control of the vehicle. The driver is paying a heavy price for his part in the accident. The passenger is paying an even higher price. It's a very sad situation. As for delaying the sentence. Team sports can have a positive influence on many people, and while they are busy with practice and games, they aren't out getting into trouble. A football scholarship may also be these kid's only real hope of going to college. There's no point in ruining their futures. I feel sorry for the parents of those who were injured. I'm sure they have been through a terrible ordeal, but the Judge's duty is to make sure that the sentencing is just, not to satisfy the anger of the driver's parents especially when a portion of that anger appears to be misplaced. What a complete load of apologistic nonsense. If one puts a object as large as a deer in the road it is entirely reasonable to expect that a car doing the speed limit is going to swerve. Even if they were speeding, the primary cause of this accident was the placement of the large object into the road. Any reasonable person would also understand that placing a large object in the road could very well lead to a serious or even deadly accident. To make convoluted excuses that shift most of the blame to the victim is ludicrous.
To: LetsRok
The judge must have thought that the sentence would have punished the innocent team members and fans of the football team by not allowing him to play. This may have wrecked their season if he wasn't able to play if needed. Tough. I think the victims had a little more wrecked than a HS football season. I swear, Marx was wrong. Sports are the opiate of the masses.
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posted on
08/16/2006 11:24:51 AM PDT
by
LexBaird
(Another member of the Bush/Halliburton/Zionist/CIA/NWO/Illuminati conspiracy for global domination!)
To: flutters
they're 16 and 17, previous record on the younger. why weren't they charged for attempted murder, and tried as adults?
also, why did the driver swerve? i thought everyone knew that you should always hit a deer straight on. deer cause less damage than a tree or rolling.
57
posted on
08/16/2006 11:26:12 AM PDT
by
absolootezer0
("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
To: opinionator
I heard that Ohio State immediately offered them scholarships. Probably because they wanted someone on the team who had once written a 500 word essay.
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posted on
08/16/2006 11:26:47 AM PDT
by
LexBaird
(Another member of the Bush/Halliburton/Zionist/CIA/NWO/Illuminati conspiracy for global domination!)
To: weegee
I'm so outraged, my head is going to explode! This judge needs a good ass kicking. I hope the town is rallying around the two victims and their families and will see to it that this p.o.s. judge will never be re-elected.
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posted on
08/16/2006 11:28:56 AM PDT
by
demkicker
(democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
To: Diddle E. Squat
Ya know, it may not work, but the locals should push hard for an impeachment attempt.He's a retired judge. How do you impeach someone who is retired? This judge probably only works a few hours a year filling in when asked.
The kids should do the time now and pay the consequences. The judge might have been rationalizing the delayed sentence by figuring they would hurt their chances of a college scholarship if they missed part of the season. Bad decision.
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posted on
08/16/2006 11:36:27 AM PDT
by
DuxFan4ever
(The next rational liberal I meet will be the first.)
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