> > Sigh. And how do they learn???
>
> Very easy. You TEACH them. And then you
> enforce the rules. It's simple really.
And how do you teach them? Answer: By correcting their errant behavior. And do they learn instantly? No, it takes a few cycles, and with some kids, it takes a lot of cycles. And during this process THEY WILL MAKE NOISE. And if you look down on those parents who are going through this phase, you are failing to understand what parenting is all about.
Trust me. The lady in question has ignored this problem for years. My wife is a preschool teacher (3 year olds) and they all know the difference between inside and outside voices by Christmas. If a 3 year-old can learn it, so can an 8 year-old.
I raised two kids and I learned you should never make excuses for bad behavior. Bad behavior should be challenged, not ignored.
No one said they learn instantly.