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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Yup. Of course, the liberal whiners who complain about noisy children are usually the first ones to shriek like fishwives if a parent actually, say, DISCIPLINES their child. Lord forbid you should SPANK a child in front of them -- you're an abusive lout!


109 posted on 08/15/2006 7:22:02 AM PDT by Malacoda (The Posting Police need an enema.)
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To: Malacoda; steve-b; T. Rustin Noone; longtermmemmory; misterrob

As a father of four (all wanted and planned) I have found many restaurants don’t know what to do with you, you don’t fit the yuppie template 2.3 kids, (Table for 4.3 people please). My children are generally well behaved, but since you aren’t allowed to discipline them in public what do you expect? (You just wait till we get home cannot carry the impact of an immediate swat) We have a society that has outlawed discipline in public. Schools that teach children their “Rights” so Mommy and Daddy won’t discipline at home.

I do not beat my children (just to make it clear) I spank for “German Shepard” commands (Sit, Stay, Come, etc. if my dog can do it, my children can do it), willful disobedience and for anything that endangers life and limb (theirs, mine or another child’s). Otherwise, I come up with punishments that fit the crime. (It is not unusual to see one of my children walking beside me in the store with their arms folded because they have been touching things.) (My children never run wild in a store)

My daughter came home from school one day, hit her brother and took his toy and threw it in the street, she then told me I couldn’t spank her, it was child abuse, her teacher said so. (She was testing to see if this was true) I responded that se could go and live with the teacher if she wanted, but in my family, I made the rules. She threatened to call the police, I told her, “Go ahead, I won’t stop you, and if they do take you away from me, you will never have all the things I am giving you (including love) and you will regret it for the rest of your life.” I explained to her that parents, who love their children, discipline them, because they care, if I didn’t care, I would not bother with her until her behavior became inconvenient for ME. I gave her two swats (one for the behavior, one for the defiance) then I went to the school and had a talk with her teacher (this is a private school) the next day she had a discussion with the students about the difference between discipline and abuse. In a public school, the government recommended course on children reporting abuse would have been all that would have been taught.

I have a handicapped son, he is autistic (high functioning which means he talks and reads and mostly acts like a normal kid). As an autistic he is sometimes not completely silent in stores. He will sometimes jump up and down in place (usually while we are in lines) and “vocalize” (He keeps it down, and if it starts to get louder than a normal talking voice, I remind him, and it stops) It is his response to being over stimulated. (Autistic children cannot filter out the lights and sounds, the conversations) You cannot imagine the comments I have gotten, then again, maybe you can. Adults that say these things are usually shocked by my response, it is usually something like “He’s autistic, what’s your excuse for being rude?”

Sorry, I went off after reading that because I have run into this even in “Kid Friendly” places. Some adults think the world should be like a movie.

Look people, life’s messy and at the end we all make a really big mess, Deal with it.


356 posted on 08/15/2006 10:17:10 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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