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Can a good Muslim be a good American?
A friend who knows | 8/11/2006 | Agent Smith

Posted on 08/11/2006 6:36:37 AM PDT by Agent Smith

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To: sinkspur
"You are attempting to impute collective guilt to the entire Muslim religion for the actions of a few."


Yes I am. Simply because they are the needles in a hay stack. Also if you read some of the statistics most of the hay is bad hay as well.

Have you read some of the statistics out of the middle east? most Muslims do not believe Muslims did the attacks of 911. I would like to know more on those statistics and find out who they believed did the attacks. I think we know that answer though.

881 posted on 08/13/2006 12:22:16 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: sinkspur
"It could, and it would be a moral abomination. Killing all to get a few is genocidal."


yes I agree with you completely. I agree with you more then you might think. The problem is it will happen because the terrorist sooner or latter will use nukes and our response will be genocidal. The hay stack will be burned.

882 posted on 08/13/2006 12:25:45 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: sinkspur
The IRA was killing in the name of their Catholicism against the Protestant British crown.

Please. The IRA was a nationalist movement by Irish who wanted independence from the British Crown. The Catholic/Protestant garbage is a red herring meant to show the EEEVil Irish Catholics and their extremism. Anti-Papism is the name of That game. There is Very little evidence of Catholicism playing any part in the Irish Civil War.

883 posted on 08/13/2006 12:40:14 PM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: TradicalRC

thank you


884 posted on 08/13/2006 12:48:17 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: TradicalRC
There is Very little evidence of Catholicism playing any part in the Irish Civil War.

How many Protestants were fighting on the side of the IRA?

885 posted on 08/13/2006 2:05:29 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Have you read some of the statistics out of the middle east?

This is not the Middle East. It is the United States of America.

The subject of this thread is American Muslims. So your statistics are meaningless.

886 posted on 08/13/2006 2:07:03 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
The problem is it will happen because the terrorist sooner or latter will use nukes and our response will be genocidal.

Well, I dont' believe anybody is going to use nukes. Not in the forseeable future, anyway.

887 posted on 08/13/2006 2:08:21 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
From Wikipedia,

In modern times, the jizya and zakat taxes have been replaced by more modern forms of taxation.

What these forms are I don't know, but jizya is no longer in practice.

And, what about the Christian minorities in Arab nations, anyway? They're Christian, don't pay the jizya since it is no longer in practice, and still exist as a minority.

888 posted on 08/13/2006 2:42:35 PM PDT by Abd al-Rahiim
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To: tacticalogic
I disagree with the quote at face value. It obviously does not make it any better with regard to being a good American. I don't contest that.
889 posted on 08/13/2006 2:43:17 PM PDT by Abd al-Rahiim
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To: sinkspur
Irish protestants Love British rule.

How many Protestants were fighting on the side of the IRA?

Gee, how many pearlies were fighting on the side of the IRA? I guess that makes them anti-pearlie.

890 posted on 08/13/2006 3:33:13 PM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
An American serviceman got murdered because they accidentally bumped into a Muslim woman.

They are barbarians.
891 posted on 08/13/2006 3:36:08 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Agent Smith; All

I'm late to this thread, but to me, the answer is yes. A good Muslim can be a good American. A much higher percentage of Muslims have assimilated into society in the US than in Europe.


892 posted on 08/13/2006 3:46:34 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Don't throw any cold water on the fire storm. It is anti-cathartic.


893 posted on 08/13/2006 4:00:12 PM PDT by Torie
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To: EveningStar
I'm late to this thread, but to me, the answer is yes. A good Muslim can be a good American. A much higher percentage of Muslims have assimilated into society in the US than in Europe.

As a fellow "Mooslie apologist", you need to know that there is room in the detention camps for you and me, too.

894 posted on 08/13/2006 4:05:36 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur; EveningStar; Torie

I've avoided this embarrassment of a thread for long enough.

Hope there's room at the Inn for me too.


895 posted on 08/13/2006 4:06:35 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq)
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To: sinkspur

Here in NYC the Arab community was established over a century ago. I guess they were just being patient.


896 posted on 08/13/2006 4:10:25 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: MikefromOhio; sinkspur; Torie
Hope there's room at the Inn for me too.

This is America. The Inn is quite large. :)

The next time some leftist comes up to you and tells you that diversity is great and that assimilation is cultural genocide, you can ask him this: Why haven't we had the same acts of terrorism by HOME-GROWN Muslims that the UK and other European countries have had?

For the vast majority of Muslims here, American freedom beats the crap out of Sharia.

897 posted on 08/13/2006 4:56:10 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: mariabush
Your husband seen the serviceman bumped the Muslim lady and right away they killed the serviceman?

Where was this?

898 posted on 08/13/2006 6:14:47 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: EveningStar
"For the vast majority of Muslims here, American freedom beats the crap out of Sharia."


Maybe that should be part of the questioning to enter the country. Will you accept other religions to live freely?

899 posted on 08/13/2006 6:17:33 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* “I love you guys”)
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To: tacticalogic
If the Bible is your authority for civil law, then you are a theocrat.

The Bible is not my authority for civil law. The Bible orders me to obey the civil law of such country I may inhabit, temporarily or by birth, so long as such obedience does not conflict with faith principles (i.e. compulsory Islamic prayer or prohibition of Christian worship).

Do I escape your label?

900 posted on 08/13/2006 6:46:33 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Eighty-seven days (counting up))
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