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God's Chosen People (Destruction of Israel called for by famous Norwegian writer)
Norsk Israel Senter (Translation of original Aftenposten article) ^ | August 5, 2006 | Jostein Gaarder

Posted on 08/10/2006 8:12:09 AM PDT by Basel2005

Israel is now history. We no longer recognize the State of Israel. There is no way back. The State of Israel has raped the world's recognition and will not achieve peace until it lays down its arms. The State of Israel, in its present form is history, writes Jostein Gaarder.

There's no turning back. It's time to learn a new lesson: We no longer recognize the State of Israel. We could not recognize the apartheid regime of South Africa, nor did we recognize the Afghani Taliban regime. Then there were many who did not recognize Saddam Hussein's Iraq or the Serbs' ethnic cleansing. We need to get used to the idea: The State of Israel, in its current form, is history.

We don't believe in the notion of God's Chosen People. We laugh at this people's capriciousness and weep at its misdeeds. To act as God's Chosen People is not only stupid and arrogant, but a crime against humanity. We call it racism.

Limits to tolerance

There are limits to our patience, and there are limits to our tolerance. We do not believe in divine promises as a justification for occupation and apartheid. We have left the Middle Ages behind. We laugh uneasily at those who still believe that the god of flora, fauna and the galaxies has selected one people in particular as his favorite and given it silly, stone tablets, burning bushes and a license to kill.

We call baby killers "baby killers" and will never accept that people such as these have a divine or historic mandate excusing their outrages. We just say: Shame on all apartheid, shame on ethnic cleansing and shame on every terrorist strike against civilians whether carried out by Hamas, the Hezbollah or the State of Israel! Unscrupulous art of war

We acknowledge, and pay heed to, Europe's deep responsibility for the plight of the Jews, for the disgraceful harassment, the pogroms and the Holocaust. It was historically and morally necessary for the Jews to get their own home. However, the State of Israel, with its unscrupulous art of war and its disgusting weapons, has massacred its own legitimacy. It has systematically flaunted International Law, international conventions, and countless UN resolutions and can no longer expect protection from the same. It has carpet bombed the recognition of the world. But fear not! The Tribulation will soon be over. The State of Israel has seen its Soweto.

We are now at the watershed. There's no turning back. The State of Israel has raped the recognition of the world and shall have no peace until it lays down its arms. Without defense, without skin

May the spirit and the word blow the apartheid walls of Israel down. The State of Israel does not exist. It is now without defense, without skin. May the world therefore have mercy upon the civilian population; for our prophecies of doom are not aimed at the civilian individuals.

We wish the people of Israel well, nothing but wellness, but we reserve the right to not eat Jaffa oranges as long as they are foul tasting and poisonous. It was endurable for some years to live without eating the blue grapes of apartheid.

They celebrate their triumphs

We don't believe that Israel grieves any more for the forty killed Lebanese children than it has wailed over the forty years spent in the desert three thousand years ago. We note that many Israelis celebrate such triumphs in the same manner they once cheered the plagues of the Lord as "fitting punishment" for the people of Egypt. (In that tale, the Lord God of Israel appears as an insatiable sadist.) We ask ourselves if most Israelis think that one Israeli life is worth more than the forty Palestinian or Lebanese lives.

For we've seen pictures of little Israeli girls writing hateful greetings on the bombs about to be dropped on the civilian populations of Lebanon and Palestine. The little Israeli girls are not cute when they strut with glee at the death and torment on the other side of the fronts. The retribution of blood vengeance

We do not recognize the rhetoric of the State of Israel. We do not recognize the spiral of retribution and blood vengeance that comes with "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth." We do not recognize the principle of ten or a thousand Arab eyes for one Israeli eye. We do not recognize collective punishment or population thinning out as a political weapon. Two thousand years have passed since a Jewish rabbi criticized the ancient doctrine of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth."

He said: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." We do not recognize a state founded on anti-humanistic principles and on the ruins of an archaic national and warlike religion. Or, as Albert Schweitzer expressed it: "Humanitarianism consists of never sacrificing a human being for a cause." Compassion and forgiveness

We do not recognize the old Kingdom of David as a model for the 21st century map of the Middle East. The Jewish rabbi claimed two thousand years ago that the Kingdom of God is not a martial restoration of the Kingdom of David; the Kingdom of God is within us and amongst us. The Kingdom of God is compassion and forgiveness.

Two thousand years have passed since the Jewish rabbi disarmed and thoroughly humanized the old rhetoric of war. Even in his time, the first Zionist terrorists were operating.

Israel doesn't listen

For two thousand years, we have rehearsed the syllabus of humanism, but Israel doesn't listen. It wasn't the Pharisee who helped the man who lay by the wayside, having fallen prey to robbers. It was a Samaritan; today we would say, a Palestinian. We are humans firstly - then Christian, Muslim, or Jew. Or as the Jewish rabbi said: "And if you greet your brethren only, what more do you do than others?" We do not accept the kidnapping of soldiers. But neither do we accept the deportation of whole populations or the abduction of legally elected parliamentarians and government ministers.

We recognize the State of Israel of 1948, but not the one of 1967. It is the State of Israel that fails to recognize, respect or defer to the internationally lawful Israeli state of 1948. Israel wants more - more water and more villages. To obtain this there are those who want, with God's assistance, a final solution to the Palestinian problem. 'The Palestinians have so many other countries', certain Israeli politicians have argued; we have only one.

The U.S. or the world?

Or as the foremost protector of the State of Israel puts it: "May God continue to bless America." A little child took note of that. She turned to her mother, saying: "Why does the President always end his speeches with 'God bless America'? Why not, 'God bless the world'?"

Then there was a Norwegian poet who let out this childlike sigh of the heart: "Why doth Humanity so slowly progress?" It was he who wrote so beautifully of the Jew and the Jewess. But he rejected the notion of God's Chosen People. He personally liked to call himself a Muslim.

Calmness and mercy

We do not recognize the State of Israel. Not today, not as of this writing, not in the hour of grief and wrath. If the entire Israeli nation should fall to its own devices and parts of the population has to flee their occupied areas into another Diaspora, then we say: May their surroundings stay calm and show them mercy. It is an eternal crime, without mitigating circumstances, to lay hand on refugees and a stateless people.

Peace and free passage for the evacuating, civilian population no longer protected by a State. Shoot not at the fugitives! Take not aim at them! They are vulnerable now -- like snails without shells, vulnerable as slow caravans of the Palestinian and Lebanese refugees, defenseless as the women, children and elderly of Qana, Gaza, Sabra and Shatilla. Give the Israeli refugees shelter; give them milk and honey!

Let not one Israeli child pay with his life. Far too many children and civilians have already been murdered.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: antisemitic; antisemitism; barf; barfalert; nazi; norway; quisling; theophobia
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To: Eurotwit

That's really interesting. Can you post a link?


81 posted on 08/10/2006 8:49:49 PM PDT by tdewey10 (Can we please take out Iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: linear

In fact, there are still Samaritans living in Israel today. Mostly in the West bank I think.

Quite fascinating.


82 posted on 08/10/2006 8:51:23 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: dervish; Convert from ECUSA; SJackson; Berosus; Fred Nerks

"nor did we recognize the Afghani Taliban regime. Then there were many who did not recognize Saddam Hussein's Iraq or the Serbs' ethnic cleansing."

Yeah, sure, no recognition for the Taliban regime. My butt.


83 posted on 08/10/2006 8:54:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: bwteim
Hilde Waage is a prime example of one of the problems on Norwegian society today.

She is the major mid-east expert. Whenever media needs to call on an "expert" there she is spewing her nonsense. No opposition voices are aired, and she probably even believes her own lies.

As your quote reveals, not only is she nuts, she is downright shamless and evil.


84 posted on 08/10/2006 8:55:45 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: tdewey10

Yeah.

It would be interesting to see the reaction to his screed over at Democratic Underground.

I think a lot of nastiness would be exposed.

Sadly.


85 posted on 08/10/2006 9:09:49 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: tdewey10

I'll have a look for it.

It might take awhile. Was browsing through his archives the other day and came over that article.

Here in the meantime is a link to Spengler's work:

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/spengler.html

Need to grab a cup of coffee, and then I'll start looking :-)

Cheers.


86 posted on 08/10/2006 9:14:07 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: SunkenCiv

Jostein Gaarder

b. 1952 Oslo, Norway

A former philosophy teacher whose best-known novel, Sophie's World, was a surprise international best-seller, Jostein Gaarder is one of the most popular of contemporary Scandinavian authors. With over 20 million copies of Sophie in print and with an entire industry having sprung up around that one book -- there's a movie, a musical, a boardgame, even a CD-ROM based on the book -- he is presumably also one of the wealthiest. What's so deucedly odd about this is that Gaarder's books usually mix in a hefty dose of philosophical pedagogy along with the story. Sophie's World is subtitled A Novel about the History of Philosophy and the book often seems closer to being a primer on western philosophical thought than a novel -- so much so that it has become a popular textbook for undergraduate philosophy courses. This hardly seems consistent with "popular" fiction...

http://members.aol.com/wpwinter/nordland/gaarder.htm

I couldn't read it all, made me feel sick...but Norway gives the Nobel Peace Prize to terrorists, so it's no surprise.

87 posted on 08/10/2006 9:17:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (ENEMY + MEDIA = ENEMEDIA)
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To: tdewey10

I think this was it:

What the Jews won't tell you

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/EK04Aa03.html

Cheers.


88 posted on 08/10/2006 9:31:43 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

Yeah I could see that. I also think atheism and a darkened conscience ingrained as the "state religion" is at the root. Also an increase in militant Islamic sympathy because of the large immigrant presence. They fear backlash in their own country if they come out against the Hezbollah Arabs.

When a society rejects basic human rights and basic ethics of morality, it follows that it will hate anything that stems from the Judeo-Christian tradition.

Europe has delivered themselves over to the Arabs. The fruit of decades of abortion - a weakened, aged population that cannot stop a massive immigration crush, and soon, an war of invasion and disruption from within and from outside.


89 posted on 08/10/2006 9:33:33 PM PDT by rjp2005 (It was called the Cold War)
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To: Fred Nerks

has not aged well - probably too much of the old aquavit
90 posted on 08/10/2006 9:59:02 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: SunkenCiv

This guy would make Quisling proud.


91 posted on 08/10/2006 11:46:32 PM PDT by dervish
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To: bwteim
bwteim, belated thanks for the ping to this bone-chilling piece.(out of town yesterday). I don't know what's more demoralizing:

1)That Aftenposten could see fit to print this steaming, putrid puddle of bile.

2) That one of Norway's supposedly "leading" men of letters could be capable of producing such sophmoric tripe. If I'm correct, he tries, & fails miserably, to cloak his hatred with the pretense of literary aspirations by mimicking the hebrew prophecies of doom.

3) That the outrage against the most frightening anti-semitic screed I've read outside of the lefty skinhead blogs championing Lamont's victory over Lieberman in a very long time is so tepid. The director of the Holocost Centre himself seems to have bought into all the contrived Hezbollah propaganda.

4) That Abe Foxman & the ADL are so offended by a drunken actor mouthing off at a traffic stop when American Jewry has alligned itself so completely with the european left, which as anybody who has spent any time in europe over the last decade knows only too well is thoroughly, inextricably motivated by such an overt soberly articulated hatred for jews as this is.

I'm not jewish, and I don't live in europe, but if I did I'd sure as hell be packing my bags right now. But where to go? Where is safe for them now when the American "paper of record", the New York Times, can gloss over all this scary, stomach-turning crap regularly issued from its allies on the "intellectual" left around the world?

I sure hope Mark Steyn has seen this and fires back with one of his classics to repudiate this ludicrous literary poseur/ nazi-wannabe soon.This is so truly, deeply scary, I wouldn't know how or where to begin to repudiate it.

92 posted on 08/11/2006 6:26:26 AM PDT by leilani
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To: pray4liberty

This guys is Quisling come back to life. A traitor.


93 posted on 08/11/2006 6:30:27 AM PDT by juliej (juliej)
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To: Basel2005
'Glad I went to Europe in a more naive time, for I would never go again,
even if they somehow miraculously escape the islamization of their ridiculous societies.
94 posted on 08/11/2006 10:06:21 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: greenthumbedislndr

Another Quisling comes to the surface. My mother, who was a wonderful person, was Norwegian and a socialist. I think she had some of the same thoughts against Jews but never really expressed them. What's going on in my 'other country?'


95 posted on 08/11/2006 12:37:40 PM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Bergen

I remember going to Oslo with mom (who was dying of cancer at the time) and seeing "Pakis" (Pakistanis) all over the place. I don't think the Norwegians in 1983 were too crazy about this influx.


96 posted on 08/11/2006 12:40:29 PM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Ancesthntr

God bless Israel and all its people. I continually pray for the peace of Jerusalam and feel the war in Lebanon is part of God's plan for both nations. We have to remember, in spite of what Fox News or CNN or others say, GOD is still in control. Mxxx


97 posted on 08/11/2006 12:44:59 PM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: Basel2005

This article is absolutely sickening.


98 posted on 08/11/2006 12:47:09 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: Basel2005
"To act as God's Chosen People is not only stupid and arrogant, but a crime against humanity. We call it racism."

Europeans don't have a clue about racism. There are black, brown, and white members of Islam, and the same thing applies with Jews. Moreover, 16% of Israel's population is Muslim.

What is really at issue here is the struggle for sharia law against liberal democracy. Jews immigrated to Israel fair and square, just like many immigrants do today.

The country is tiny



and most people only live along the coast.



But that's not good enough for the Islamofascists who can't stand living with kuffar.
99 posted on 08/11/2006 12:47:37 PM PDT by JHBowden (A wise man proportions his belief to the evidence. -- David Hume)
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To: Basel2005

Gaarder's father was an SS officer, his mother a viking trollop of no consequence.


100 posted on 08/11/2006 1:08:21 PM PDT by muleskinner
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