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1 posted on 08/09/2006 8:47:39 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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Thanks for the post - Copied and sent off to granddaughter....


2 posted on 08/09/2006 8:55:08 PM PDT by GOPJ (Al Gore - the original "Millions Could Die" kind of guy....)
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There is a lot of wisdom in this article.


4 posted on 08/09/2006 9:05:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (Life is exquisite... of great beauty, keenly felt.)
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ping


5 posted on 08/09/2006 9:08:12 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: SamAdams76

Cool.

But now I am confused...

Am I supposed to 'work out' my willpower or am I supposed to keep it in reserve?


8 posted on 08/09/2006 9:36:18 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: SamAdams76

Good article. Thanks for posting.


9 posted on 08/09/2006 9:47:06 PM PDT by PioneerDrive (cursing the darkness)
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The psychologists discovered it was self-control, by a long shot. A child's capacity for self-discipline was about twice as important as his or her IQ when it came to predicting academic success.

This suggests that only the two are major factors: intelligence and self-discipline. Self-discipline it not at all the same as the ability to concentrate, prioritize or focus. Perhaps those abilities were in fact what was being measured.

The one or two dollar test - to me that would be much more a test of intelligence, not self-control. I'm not very self-disciplined but that would be a no-brainer - wait for the two bucks!

10 posted on 08/09/2006 9:53:41 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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btt


11 posted on 08/09/2006 9:59:39 PM PDT by Musket
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This may be the major part of the correlation between studying music and academic success.


14 posted on 08/09/2006 10:54:16 PM PDT by InMemoriam
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I've always tried to discipline myself against the Seven Deadly Sins. They may or may not endanger your immortal soul, but each and all of them can surely mess up your terrestrial life - and Sloth is among them.
16 posted on 08/09/2006 11:18:06 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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The article makes a good point in a round-about way -- a large part of measuring success is in defining it, focusing on what counts and letting other things slide.

My college GPA was a mediocre 2.5, but 14 years after graduation, I can explain concepts from those classes more clearly than most of my peers. I hated multiple choice tests and loved papers, because I was more interested in the ideas than in the grades. I spent more time working at the campus paper than in class, and that experience was more relevant to my later career than my GPA will ever be.

Ms. Fine (and the study she cites) is dead on in observing that drive counts more than talent in ... well, just about anything. Far more naturally gifted baseball players have failed to approach the records Pete Rose set through sheer determination.

I've known plenty of incredibly intelligent people who, in the vernacular of school counselors, failed to "live up to their potential." I've also known plenty of mediocre intellects who went on to do good work and make tons of money. Which is more "successful" is largely a function of how you define success.

One guy I used to run into every now and then stands out. I'll call him Oscar. He went into the Merchant Marine straight out of high school, and I have a degree straight out of a top-10 university, but we never came across a topic in which he couldn't hold up his end of the conversation, often putting me to shame. Seems the Merchant Marine offers time to read and few distractions, and he's a voracious autodidact.

He'd work in the states for a year or so, saving up enough money to live in Turkey or Tibet for a couple of years. When the money started to run out, he'd come back to the States and work for a while, then repeat the cycle. Not what most people would point to as a model of success, but if it's what makes him happy, can we call him a failure?

One college friend was one we had pegged for Wall Street, or the Senate, or a Law faculty. He got a BA with honors with very little effort -- he was that smart -- and got a full ride to a top-10 law school. He dropped out after one year. The one thing that really got him going was his time on the debate team in high school and college. So now he teaches high school history and coaches the debate team.

I'm not denigrating folks who get stellar grades, get great jobs, and make tons of money. More power to them. I have nothing but respect and admiration for people who set their goals and achieve them. But how many "failures" are so labeled because they did not reach goals that were never theirs?

I'm also not excusing a lack of effort. I have little regard for daydreaming wannabes who say they want to be actors but don't go on auditions because commercials are beneath them, or who say they want to be writers but don't actually sit down and f'n write.

Bottom line, a success is someone who sets goals and does the work necessary to achieve them; whether he's driven to make money, build skyscrapers, write novels, write songs, become a priest or minister or rabbi, raise children, teach children to read, heal the sick, feed the poor, fight the enemy, install cabinets straight and level, grow crops, or be the best damn plumber he can be.


18 posted on 08/09/2006 11:26:05 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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self ping


23 posted on 08/10/2006 7:03:10 AM PDT by Badray (CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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