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To: PackerBoy
Though I believe the Towers came crashing down as a result of the planes weakening the structural integrity of one or more floors, there is a remote possibility that because it did resemble the configuration of a demolition, the buildings may have been wired for demolition when they were constructed years ago in anticipation of the day they would have to be demolished.

IF (A big "IF") that is true, I suppose that for one reason or another, the charges on each floor may have triggered accidentally as the upper floors crashed into each descending floor. That would account for what some conspiracy folks say about the charges being in evidence as the buildings collapsed.

The only reason I say that is because Building 7 could not have been wired in just a couple of hours before it was demolished. Building 7 must have been wired long before 9/11. If it was, then that is reason to consider that the Twin Towers were also pre-wired.

Building 7, BTW, came down from the bottom, all in one piece. A pre-announced demolition, according to several reports. All three networks video-taped the demolition, but it wasn't generally reported as a demolition for some reason.

I'm just trying to piece together a scenario from bits of info I have read during the last few years, not that I necessarily believe it.

56 posted on 08/06/2006 6:23:56 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
Would any insurance company on the planet insure a building with "pre-planted demolition charges"?

They must have been planted in secret, and all of the ironworkers involved killed on the spot. If word ever leaked out, nobody would set foot in the building.

Down in the fourth subbasement was a secret Self Destruct switch with a red LED timer that starts counting down when the switch is thrown.

The closest I have ever seen to your theory is an old RR tunnel that had "pockets" in the brickwork over both entry arches. I was told (and have no authority or way to vouch for veracity) that they were put there so that the US military could pack the pockets with dynamite to deny access of the tunnel to the enemy in time of war.

Do you think perhaps the contractor that built your house placed secret demolition devices? You never know...

Just to get your mind working, you know that the investigators found no trace of explosives (which proves the coverup) but did find tritium and uranium in the debris?
57 posted on 08/06/2006 6:35:57 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Eastbound

WTC Building 7 was damaged by debris from the collapse of towers 1 and 2. This according to firefighters who were ACTUALLY THERE! There was a 20-story high hole in the building. Try doing some research before you spout off.

Read it here:

http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/911/magazine/gz/boyle.html

We went one block north over to Greenwich and then headed south. There was an engine company there, right at the corner. It was right underneath building 7 and it was still burning at the time. They had a hose in operation, but you could tell there was no pressure. It was barely making it across the street. Building 6 was fully involved and it was hitting the sidewalk across the street. I told the guys to wait up.

A little north of Vesey I said, we'll go down, let's see what's going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what's going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn't look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn't look good.

But they had a hoseline operating. Like I said, it was hitting the sidewalk across the street, but eventually they pulled back too. Then we received an order from Fellini, we're going to make a move on 7. That was the first time really my stomach tightened up because the building didn't look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn't really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I'm standing next to said, that building doesn't look straight. So I'm standing there. I'm looking at the building. It didn't look right, but, well, we'll go in, we'll see.

So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came running up. He said forget it, nobody's going into 7, there's creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.

Firehouse: When you looked at the south side, how close were you to the base of that side?

Boyle: I was standing right next to the building, probably right next to it.

Firehouse: When you had fire on the 20 floors, was it in one window or many?

Boyle: There was a huge gaping hole and it was scattered throughout there. It was a huge hole. I would say it was probably about a third of it, right in the middle of it. And so after Visconti came down and said nobody goes in 7, we said all right, we'll head back to the command post. We lost touch with him. I never saw him again that day.

We ended up getting back to the command post at Broadway and Vesey. By that time, there were probably 50 officers standing in a row. And I was like, I'm not going to stand on another line like that. So we came down with Fox. I knew Fox was somewhere. So we found out that Fox was over at Cortlandt and Church. They were putting a tower ladder into operation, so we made our way over to there. We ended up helping.

They had no pressure at all off of any of the hydrants from Broadway. He was asking if there was any way that we could do anything at Broadway or West. From Broadway to West westward toward Church Street there was no pressure at all. We spotted one of the squads up on Cortlandt over by Broadway and he was hooked up to a hydrant, and it was running. There was nobody there. I don't know which squad it was, but you know they were in there. We were just sitting there, so we stretched the line off of him. We relayed it to 274, who relayed it to another engine down the street and eventually we got more pressure. I think it was 22 Truck on Church and Cortlandt and they were operating to number 5.

We did that for a little while. It took a while to get the hose there because there was a White Plains company helping us and they had some different fittings. So we got water to 22, but then that's when they said all right, number 7 is coming down, shut everything down. I don't know what time that was. It was all just a blur.

Firehouse: Did they shut the tower lines and remove them from there?

Boyle: No, just left them. Everything was left where it was. Just shut everything down, moved everybody back.

Firehouse: Could you see building 7 again from there?

Boyle: Seven, no. You got a half block away, you couldn't see it, couldn't see a damn thing. All we heard was they were worried about it coming down, everybody back away. We ran into the people running around for water for the eyes because everybody's eyes were burned and I don't know who they were. I think it was the doctor and some other people. They were just running around, washing people's eyes out.

We were there about an hour or so until number 7 came down and everything was black again.

Firehouse: So number 7 comes down. Everything went black?

Boyle: It was like it was night again. First, we went to Liberty and Church and that was the big pile from the south tower that came down. There was a pile there, had to be 15, 20 stories high with guys roaming around on the pile.

That was the first time I really saw one of the towers fully down. I had no idea. It was an amazing site, stunning, it was surreal. Guys were climbing around in the pile, but I figured we had to try to hook up with Chief Fox again, so we headed north on Church and we ran into Fox again on Church and they were putting the tower ladders back into operation.


77 posted on 08/18/2006 3:37:03 PM PDT by GeorgiaYankee
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