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Convicted border agent tells his story
Daily Bulletin ^ | 8/6/06 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 08/06/2006 10:57:27 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

BTTT///


41 posted on 08/06/2006 2:01:04 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Do you believe that you can shoot someone in the back if you suspect him of being illegal?

Do you believe that a BP has to say halt until they are mowed down for not defending themselves.

42 posted on 08/06/2006 2:02:42 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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One question. Did the gov lady prove that the piece of s--t didn't have a gun? If the officers thought he had a gun then they had the right to shoot him in the back. This crime against the agents had better get a full hearing in the appeals court.
43 posted on 08/06/2006 2:39:22 PM PDT by webboy45
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Did anyone think of this? Now that the officers have been found guilty of violating the illegals civil rights.....the illegals can sue for damages in court. Remember the guy who lost his ranch?
These families now stand to lose everything they own as soon as the Southern Poverty Law Center (I think that's correct) gets ahold of this.

Truly disgusting and outrageous!


44 posted on 08/06/2006 3:06:08 PM PDT by sheana
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To: webboy45; NormsRevenge

Pardon me if I'm incredulous -- if this is true, it's outrageous. But why haven't we heard anything about this until now? Are there news stories about this anywhere else? The two agents have already been convicted, and not a word until now...


45 posted on 08/06/2006 3:06:59 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: OregonRancher

"I've got dark thoughts about the future of this country."

You and me both, Charlie. I sometimes feel the nation's in "suicide mode" and no one's doing very much about it.


46 posted on 08/06/2006 3:11:09 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: NormsRevenge
"Aldrete-Davila is suing the Border Patrol for $5 million for violating his civil rights."

Let's see...

Immunity from a felony prosecution AND 5 million bucks.

Ain't America great.

47 posted on 08/06/2006 3:22:10 PM PDT by spectre
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To: Jack Hammer

Well, Maybe it's time for another Alamo, except this
time we win. If something doesn't happen soon, we're going to cease to exist as a country. Who knows, maybe it would be better if we had a nice quiet revolution to stir the pot a bit. I'm game.


48 posted on 08/06/2006 3:41:45 PM PDT by OregonRancher (illigitimus non carborundun)
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To: The Old Hoosier

The El Paso Times covered it extensively, writing over 20 articles.

Here is the DOJ's summary of their "success."


http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/txw/press_releases/2006/Compean.con.pdf

U.S. Department of Justice
U.S. Attorney’s Office
Western District of Texas

Johnny Sutton, U.S. Attorney
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


March 8, 2006

The U.S. Department of Justice's U.S. Attorney's office for the Western District of Texas issued the following press release:

United States Attorney Johnny Sutton announced that a federal jury in El Paso this afternoon convicted two U.S. Border Patrol agents on charges associated with a February 2005 shooting incident. The jury convicted Ignacio Ramos (a.k.a. "Nacho") and Jose Alonso Compean with assault with serious bodily injury, assault with a deadly weapon, discharge of a firearm in relation to a crime of violence and a civil rights charge. Compean and Ramos were also convicted of four counts and two counts, respectively, of obstruction of justice. The jury acquitted both defendants of assault with intent to commit murder.

"Everyday the brave men and women of the U.S. Border Patrol put their lives on the line to protect us. We thank them for their sacrifice and trust them with the burden of enforcing the law. Agents Compean and Ramos abused that trust through violence and cover-up. The fact that they are now convicted and will soon be punished for their crimes is a perfect example of why America stands out as a country where no one is above the law," stated United States Attorney Johnny Sutton.

Evidence presented during the trial revealed that on February 17, 2005, the defendants attempted to apprehend a Mexican National, who was transporting a load of marijuana, while attempting to flee back into Mexico near Fabens, Texas. During the incident, Compean fired approximately 14 rounds from his service pistol; Ramos fired one round from his service pistol striking the victim. Ballistics testing confirmed that the bullet which struck the victim was from Ramos' service weapon. In addition, jurors found that the defendants intentionally failed to report the shooting incident to supervisors, concealed evidence and obstructed the investigation. Finally, jurors convicted Compean of collecting and disposing the spent shell casings expelled from the defendants' firearms in an effort to prevent them from being used in official proceedings.

U.S. Attorney Sutton commended the Office of Inspector General - Department of Homeland Security as well as the United States Border Patrol for their cooperation and assistance with this investigation.

Richard L. Skinner, Inspector General for the Department of Homeland Security stated, "The conviction in this case is a positive reflection of the United States Border Patrol's attempt to guard our nation's borders, while maintaining a high degree of integrity and understanding the necessity of strictly adhering to the laws of the United States. It is a tribute to the Border Patrol that they sought the legal process by assisting special agents of the Department of Homeland Security, Office of Inspector General, in bringing to justice two of their own, who independently decided to take the law into their own hands. This verdict reaffirms that no one is above the law."

Ramos and Compean each face up to life in federal prison. Sentencing is scheduled for 9:00am on June 8, 2006, before United States District Judge Kathleen Cardone. Assistant United States Attorneys Debra P. Kanof and Jose Luis Gonzalez are prosecuting this case on behalf of the government. Contact: Shana Jones, 210/384-7440.


49 posted on 08/06/2006 4:18:59 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge

Disgusting!


50 posted on 08/06/2006 4:21:02 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: calcowgirl
... America stands out as a country where no one is above the law," stated United States Attorney Johnny Sutton.

Except, of course, for the drug smuggling Mexican national, every other illegal alien in this country, the employers who hire them, etc., ad nauseum.

51 posted on 08/06/2006 4:30:22 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: NormsRevenge
It is a violation of Border Patrol regulations to go after someone who is fleeing," she said. "The Border Patrol pursuit policy prohibits the pursuit of someone.

This is an unbelievably stupid thing for a DA to say. The fact is Border Patrol Agents can pursue any person that flees and most certainly a fleeing felon.

53 posted on 08/06/2006 6:19:14 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Ajnin

DA=AUSA


54 posted on 08/06/2006 6:19:56 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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To: Libertina

I was a Border Patrol Agent in the early 1950's and I worked at the border another 30 years in the Customs Service. I never heard of such crap- but I have been out for almost 18 years. Maybe they should issue them water pistols. This is really sick!!!!!


55 posted on 08/06/2006 6:51:06 PM PDT by dvan
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To: calcowgirl

wow.


56 posted on 08/06/2006 7:43:34 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
This part particularly struck me:
Ramos and Compean each face up to life in federal prison.

57 posted on 08/06/2006 8:04:40 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

Any person, LEOs included, can end up shooting someone in the back for a good reason. Happens quite often actually. It's just harder to explain to a jury. If someone is running away from me and has their head and shoulders turned towards me pointing a gun at me, am I in danger? I say yes. I'd have to get some very solid attorneys and an expert witness from the Force Science guys at Mankato University. But it's legal and appropriate.


59 posted on 08/06/2006 9:59:00 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: sheana
Did anyone think of this? Now that the officers have been found guilty of violating the illegals civil rights.....the illegals can sue for damages in court. Remember the guy who lost his ranch? These families now stand to lose everything they own as soon as the Southern Poverty Law Center (I think that's correct) gets ahold of this.

And I've got even worse news than that. Any Illegal who is a victim of a violent crime and assist the investigation in even the slightest amount is elligible for a special visa allowing them to stay in the U.S. of America.

I'm am not B essing you.

I went to a call of a fight disturbance at a local bar that caters to Mexicans. Dude had part of his ear severed in the fight.

He's so drunk that he can't even say his name in Spanish. I have to fish his I.D. card out of his wallet while two other officers hold him up.

A month later I get a letter from an immigration rights law firm asking me to sign an affidavit stating that he assisted in the investigation of this "crime."

I threw it away.

A week later I get the phone call from them. I politely told the lady that there was no way I'd sign it because, "I don't call being so drunk that I have to fish your I.D. out of your own wallet 'assisting the ivestigation', and I don't have to sign it even if I thought he had helped. And I won't sign it ever."

I have not heard back from them. Which is just fine.

And once again, I'm not making this up. It's real.

60 posted on 08/06/2006 10:09:43 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Life is tough. It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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