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To: yldstrk
We invaded Iraq with a larger purpose in mind, surely. We have to have some additional Democracy western-style government holding in that area of the world - not just Israel.

Oh I completely disagree.

I believe that at this point, only despots and strongmen can reign in the Islamists.

Note that tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of Muslims didn't march in the streets of Cairo, Riyadh or Islamabad. But they sure did in Baghdad (with urple ink still wet on their fingers)

20 posted on 08/05/2006 3:54:18 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Wormwood
"Note that tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of Muslims didn't march in the streets of Cairo, Riyadh or Islamabad. But they sure did in Baghdad (with urple ink still wet on their fingers)"


And what did it get them? Tired feet.
21 posted on 08/05/2006 3:59:12 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (ETERNAL SHAME on the Treasonous and Immoral Democrats!)
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To: Wormwood; yldstrk; Excellence; Berlin_Freeper

We invaded Iraq with a larger purpose in mind, surely. We have to have some additional Democracy western-style government holding in that area of the world - not just Israel.

Oh I completely disagree.

I believe that at this point, only despots and strongmen can reign in the Islamists.

I believe that although I once agreed with the last statement the equation has been radically altered.

The new operation in the equation is cheap pervasive video surveillance.

Fundamental Islam and Sharia law, as a way of life can not stand up to free society without death to the unbeliever. That is why the Koran mandates it. And the somewhat Orwellian camera coverage with which we are incrementally blanketing Iraq is putting up a counter to hidden enforcement of the Muslim prohibition against leaving Islam that has never existed before. Cameras, not the IDF are the weapon that is frightening the Imams. Are recent attempts to use altered photographs just part of a propaganda operation? Or are they also part of an attempt to find a way to combat photography as an accepted tool of law enforcement and the military. Islam is very much interwoven with deception as a virtue. It can not stand in the light.

Considering the long term implications I believe this is (Persian luxury) western-ism to (Roman military discipline) Fundamentalist Islam.

41 posted on 08/06/2006 8:15:29 AM PDT by MrEdd (More cheep than a flock of baby chickens.)
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