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To: ModelBreaker

>We are making sure that half of our population is coming out of school poorly educated and screwed up<

Break out the violins!

Somehow, all these poor, poor, poor victimized boys still manage to come out ahead in endeavors not dependent on physical strength!

Care to speculate how that happens? They hire each other. They give each other bigger raises. They don't have to be any good! They'll whine all the while about how all women are stupid and useless, and how none of them would be hired for anything save for affirmative action...

I get really fed up with people seeing themselves as victims--especially in the case of white males. Heck, I've witnessed groups of white males bemoaning their Cruel Fate As White Males-in groups of 10 or so with an additional 2 women (who DID belong on merit, work ethic, dedication). Poor dears.

When I went through elementary school and high school, girls were TOLD their inherently could not do math well. I could have been a victim, and gone into an area 'suited' to my soft and mushy feminine brain, like art history or womyn's studies or womon's studies (no idea what that is about, but it's laughable)but instead I went into hard sciences and went through 4 quarters of calculus for engineering.

One does not have to be a victim.

I don't recall discipline being an issue for boys in the 1950s. Maybe mum and dad should instill some manners in their kinder. Maybe they should throw them outside so they do something other than sit in front of video games all day in the summer [I've known contemporary boys who whined if they had to spend a few minutes outside of AC. Think they'll ever resemble adult men? I doubt it, and I also doubt that evil, evil, middle aged women with weird personal agendas are responsible for such attitudes. I recall authentic boys having no qualms about heat, dirt, sweat, or getting up off their rears and running around. I think the parents create faux boys who are fearful of bugs, dirt, plants, etc.]

One does not have to be a victim, or to raise victims.


169 posted on 08/04/2006 12:07:00 AM PDT by RSteyn
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To: RSteyn
One does not have to be a victim, or to raise victims.

You've sort of been sounding like one in your posts on this thread. I quote:

"Care to speculate how that happens? They [men] hire each other. They give each other bigger raises. They don't have to be any good! They'll whine all the while about how all women are stupid and useless, and how none of them would be hired for anything save for affirmative action..."

Listen to yourself. You are a bitter victim.

Although I'm sure you would not let your obvious bitterness cause you to victimize third grade boys, you are undoubtedly a bigger person than the women who run our school policy in the country, because they do. It is pc anger and resentment--getting even stuff--like the stuff that oozes from your posts that is at the heart of this problem in the education system.

I have suggested twice that you educate yourself about the situation by reading a well-written and informative book. You show no interest in that. Instead, you just keep spewing anger at men. Go for it. It'll only make you unhappier than you already are.

I'm out of here. Bye.

170 posted on 08/04/2006 12:27:54 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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