8/3 Middle East Live Thread

To: conservativewasp

1,161 posted on 08/03/2006 5:53:41 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))

To: conservativepoet

I've been away, the Hezzies didn't hit Tel Aviv did they?

1,163 posted on 08/03/2006 5:54:34 PM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country. Zarqawi got the message.)

This is maddening. Kasich in for O'Reilly is going to talk about NATALIE HOLLOWAY next!!! Aaaaargh!!!

1,164 posted on 08/03/2006 5:55:03 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)

To: HonestConservative

Hezzie agiprop, and possibly Israeli prop too, to enourage risky behavior by the hezzies...

1,166 posted on 08/03/2006 5:55:16 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)

I think it is the IAF's way of asking Nasty "Is this the Beirut you mentioned in your speech?"

1,167 posted on 08/03/2006 5:55:50 PM PDT by casino66 (A beater of dead horses.)

1,168 posted on 08/03/2006 5:55:53 PM PDT by tsmith130

Geez...blink and ya missed it.

1,169 posted on 08/03/2006 5:56:27 PM PDT by tsmith130

To: conservativewasp

Not yet, but if Nasrallah doesn't respond as he said he would, his credibility is shot.

1,170 posted on 08/03/2006 5:56:35 PM PDT by conservativepoet

And besides the mediocre coverage by all cable networks, where are all the regulars? Do they all take vacation the first week of August?

1,171 posted on 08/03/2006 5:57:44 PM PDT by Conservababe

reviving the 1949 armistice agreement between Lebanon and Israel

This refers to the Golan Heights, I believe...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golan_heights

"...Syria has always demanded a full Israeli withdrawal from all of the Golan Heights, to the shoreline of the Sea of Galilee (the 1949 armistice line). Successive Israeli governments have expressed support for some Israeli withdrawal from the Golan without specifying the extent of this withdrawal. In return for this withdrawal, Israel demands that the area of the Golan falling under Syrian control become demilitarized and that other security measures are implemented to prevent a potential surprise Syrian attack..."

1,172 posted on 08/03/2006 5:58:43 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo

Thanks for looking out for me, I'll check him out! Off to CNN now.

1,173 posted on 08/03/2006 5:59:39 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl

I think it's a natural progression of their war strategy. They're were hit hard by rockets today and yesterday so I think they've responded in kind. Nasrallah has promised to hit Tel Aviv if Israel hit Beirut. We'll see.

1,174 posted on 08/03/2006 6:00:25 PM PDT by conservativepoet

To: Fitzcarraldo

Regarding the Golan Heights, Yitzhak Rabin stated:

Words are not enough about the Golan Heights. We must put them into actions... Withdrawal from the Golan is unthinkable, even in times of peace. Anyone considering withdrawal from the Golan Heights would be abandoning Israel’s security. Let us invest, all of us together, in order to fulfil our obligations to the Golan Heights. And to you residents — those who made the Golan Heights what it is — you have all my respect.

When interviewed about an upcoming conference on American TV network ABC on September 16, 1991, Syrian president Hafez al-Assad said:

The efforts currently exerted are based on the Security Council Resolutions ¹ 242 and ¹ 338 on the basis of realizing a comprehensive peace in the region. The Golan, as an occupied Syrian territory, shall be reinstated, within the framework of such comprehensive peace, to its natural status as part of Syrian territory. Upon implementing the comprehensive solution for the two Arab and Israeli sides, comprehensive peace will prevail and documents will be achieve peace process. This as you know will be decided within the Conference, the Israeli side on the one hand and the Arab side on the other.

Also regarding the Heights, when asked about military conflict in the area, Moshe Dayan stated :

It would happen like this: We would send a tractor to plow someplace of no value, in the demilitarized zone, knowing ahead of time that the Syrians would begin to shoot. If they did not start shooting, we would tell the tractor to keep going forward, until the Syrians in the end would get nervous and start shooting. And then we would start firing artillery, and later also the airforce, and this was the way it was. I did this, and Laskov and Tzur [two previous commanders-in-chief] did it. Yitzhak Rabin did it when he was there , but it seems to me that it was Dado, more than anyone else, who enjoyed these games.

However, Dayan also noted regarding the Israeli farmers who lived at the base of the Heights:

They suffered a lot because of the Syrians. Look, as I said before, they lived in the kibbutzim, they farmed, raised children, lived and wanted to live there. The Syrians opposite them were soldiers who shot at them and they certainly did not like this. But I can tell you in absolute certainly: the delegation that came to convince Eshkol to attack the Heights did not think about these things. It thought about the land on the Heights. Listen, I am also a farmer. I'm from Nahalal, not from Tel Aviv, and I recognize this. I saw them, and I talked to them. They did not even try to hide their greed for that soil. That's what guided them.

During United States-brokered negotiations in 1999-2000, Israel offered to return most of the Golan Heights to Syria in exchange for peace and full recognition. Syria refused. Syria offered full recognition and peace in exchange for a complete return to the pre-1967 borders. Israel refused.

1,176 posted on 08/03/2006 6:02:35 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo

To: Republican Red

Thanks Red. I said at the beginning to check who runs the morgue either way. (Haditha experience). Though, it's been published numerous times that Raja is the head of Lebanese Civil Defense for a certain area... but I don't know enough about the areas... not listed on the maps.

1,178 posted on 08/03/2006 6:03:05 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)

Nick Robertson did...

1,179 posted on 08/03/2006 6:04:47 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Talk to those who kill their own children, by Jihad/PR ? Remember Beslan.)

In-mut-too-yah-lat-lat, "Rolling Mountain Thunder" said in 1877:

"Tell General Howard I know his heart. What he told me before, I have it in my heart. I am tired of fighting. Our chiefs are killed; Looking Glass is dead, Too-hul-hul-sote is dead. The old men are all dead. It is the young men who say yes or no. He who led on the young men is dead. It is cold, and we have no blankets; the little children are freezing to death. My people, some of them, have run away to the hills, and have no blankets, no food. No one knows where they are—perhaps freezing to death. I want to have time to look for my children, and see how many of them I can find. Maybe I shall find them among the dead. Hear me, my chiefs! I am tired; my heart is sick and sad. From where the sun now stands, I will fight no more forever."

And that's how the longest terrorist war in history ended.

1,180 posted on 08/03/2006 6:04:54 PM PDT by bvw

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