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To: Rutles4Ever; wideawake; woollyone; Zechariah11
My guess is that wideawake and I will have agreed to disagree in an agreeable way long before there is a reprimand. Things get heated when bedrock principles are discussed. Just ask James and John, the Sons of Thunder, whom the Lord chastised. It happens. We recognize it , confess it, and move on from there.

I think that LeHaye is making a mistake in a way that hasn't been identified yet. He is discussing eschatology with unbelievers. Why?? A Christian needs to nfront the unbelieving world with soteriology, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved."

208 posted on 08/02/2006 12:15:46 PM PDT by Zechariah11
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To: Zechariah11

Then allow me to agree to disagree with you. I bear no ill will.

Let's just say there was a recent thread where there was some grotesque, downright nasty insults being hurled at Catholics, and when the Catholics told them to knock it off, they were accused by the moderator of making personal attacks on the people insulting them. It was shockingly transparent and disappointing.


216 posted on 08/02/2006 12:23:04 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: Zechariah11; Rutles4Ever; wideawake; woollyone
He is discussing eschatology with unbelievers. Why?? A Christian needs to nfront the unbelieving world with soteriology, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved."

That doesn't sell his books down at the local Barnes and Nobles.

217 posted on 08/02/2006 12:23:46 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: Zechariah11; Rutles4Ever; wideawake; woollyone

"I think that LeHaye is making a mistake in a way that hasn't been identified yet. He is discussing eschatology with unbelievers. Why?? A Christian needs to [co]nfront the unbelieving world with soteriology, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.""

Yes, but there are many people who see no need to be saved. So, what do you tell them? For some, the reality of Hell, or of the end times, may be the only thing that moves them.

Adrian Rogers used to say, "I'd rather scare you into Heaven than love you into Hell." Don't take that out of context, now - Dr. Rogers preached the love and grace of God for decades. That quote was just one way of saying that fear may be a motivator for those who don't respond to love.


241 posted on 08/02/2006 12:58:15 PM PDT by HeadOn (Life is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Zechariah11

Actually, I've, by God's Grace, been able to interest a lot of folks in Christianity via END TIMES PROPHECY to the point that some have become believers--committed, discipled, lasting believers.

Amazingly some secular 'nothing' in terms of religion or spirituality types have MORE OF AN ALERTNESS AND AWARENESS that

we ARE living in dramatic un paralleled times than many long churched folks do.

Odd that. Have you not seen such?


409 posted on 08/03/2006 4:30:02 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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