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Nowhere does my reply state the various members of EU don't follow so-called "democratic" principals. Nice attempt at the Straw Man fishing with a Red Herring though. Most of these nations you look up to with queers in their military are also largely Socialistic in nature and adored by American Democrats.

ANYTHING that is adored and fervently wished to be emulated by what passes for today's Deaniac KOSmunist DUmmycRAT party is most likely NOT good for conservative America.

And Britain is now going the way of the French and Spanish surrender monkeys. Funny they are degenerating into this mentality not so long after caving to the Socialist Left and opening their military to the homosexuals.

If the "Dutch Model" is what we want for our military, then why not UNIONIZE IT like the Dutch do? Go on strike when they get called to fight. The French don't need to unionize theirs. They either sub-contract out their fights or they simply surrender. British homosexual troops now participate in Gay Pride Parades. Is that what we want for our military? Once again, they quickly become their own "protected" class of "victims". A totally Leftist mentality. Is that what we want our taxpayer money going for? Clearly, NOT conservative thinking.

I "tolerate" those other nations. It damn sure doesn't mean I want to "be like the Eurotrash" and it damn sure doesn't mean I even like them or respect their cowardly and predominantly ANTI-American nature and inferiority complex.

You are still unable to answer the question or prove any of us wrong that gays can not serve in the military successfully . You might not like the governments of these other countries and that has nothing to do with this discussion.This discussion has to do with gays serving in the military.

The point is that there have not been all these major problems in these counties militaries that you and others like you predict would happen if gays were allowed to serve in the military here with out the fear of getting kicked out. There is no proof that the military will degenerate and become unable to do their jobs just because gays are serving. All these militaries continue to do well all around and continue to fight the war of terror and perform all their duties. This includes Israel who is currently fighting a war on two fronts right now, Great Britain and Australia who continue to serve in Iraq and fight terrorism.