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Who Are These Girls, Are They OK?
Ft Worth Star Telegram ^

Posted on 07/26/2006 10:55:03 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

FORT WORTH -- The two girls stare into the camera with little expression on their faces..

They are young, possibly pre-teens. One appears to be sitting in the front seat of a vehicle. The other is leaning forward from the backseat.

It is not what is shown in the cropped photograph that concerns Fort Worth authorities.

It's where it was found: under the jail cell mattress of serial killing suspect Juan Mesa Segundo.

On Tuesday, police released the image to the media. It's the second time in less than a week that an area law enforcement agency has asked for help identifying a child from a photo belonging to a suspect in a sex-related crime.

Lt. Dean Sullivan, a police spokesman, stressed that investigators have no indication that the two girls are victims of a crime. But he said police hope someone will be able to tell them who and where they are.

"We'd be remiss to the public in our responsibility to do a thorough and complete investigation if we didn't share this picture and see if anyone has any kind of information with regards to either of these two little girls," he said.

Segundo's attorney Wes Ball said he had not seen the photograph.

Segundo was arrested in April 2005 after police say a national database linked his DNA to semen found in the body of Vanessa Villa, an 11-year-old girl who was raped and strangled inside her home in August 1986.

Since his incarceration, police say tests also linked Segundo to two other rape and strangulation deaths. Prosecutors have since asked for a review of unsolved sexual assaults and homicides.

Segundo remains in solitary confinement in the Tarrant County Jail. He is expected to go on trial in Vanessa's slaying in September. Prosecutors have said they intend to seek the death penalty.

According to a search warrant affidavit, the photograph was found after police received a tip from inmate who said Segundo showed him pictures of 15 to 20 females.

One of the pictures, the inmate told investigators, was of Vanessa.

Cold case Detective Manny Reyes said he has shown the photo of the two girls to Segundo's relatives, none of whom recognized the girls.

While giving the photograph to the media may upset the girls' families, he said, "Under the circumstances we need to make sure who they are and, more than anything, are they OK."

On Thursday, Arlington police released a photo of a girl that had been found in the home of Nicholas Demont Wilborn, a man suspected in a series of southeast Arlington sex crimes and break-ins. Within hours, family friends who recognized the girl contacted police.

Do you know these girls?

People with information are asked to call Fort Worth police at 817-335-4222 or CrimeStoppers at 817-469-TIPS (8477).


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: childpredator; fortworth; juanmesasegundo; serialkiller; texas
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1 posted on 07/26/2006 10:55:04 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe
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To: Lunatic Fringe
It's very possible that something very bad has happened to both those kids.One would think that there's a national database of kids who have been reported missing. If so,a little time spent on that database might give an answer.
2 posted on 07/26/2006 11:00:01 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: Lunatic Fringe

They look like they could be on a ride at an amusement park or something. It might just be the way the picture is cropped.


3 posted on 07/26/2006 11:00:14 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Lunatic Fringe

When I was in Jr. High, I had a cheerleading uniform, the top of which, looked like the part of the shirt the little dark headed girl is wearing.


4 posted on 07/26/2006 11:02:32 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Why not get that information out of Juan Mesa Segundo?

Jack Bauer, paging Jack Bauer
5 posted on 07/26/2006 11:03:41 AM PDT by msnimje (Uni-FAIL - UN peace keeping force in Lebanon has lived up to its name.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Could the police determine the age of the photograph? Were there codes on the back to give a date it was developed? That would certainly narrow down a time frame for the age of the girls at the time and greatly aid the public.

Also, it would help if the police could determine what the logo could be on the shirt of the girl in the back seat. Can they do a color enhancement to help identify the logo?

Can the make or model of car be determined from that snipet of photograph?

Surely, the police could provide more info on the picture to help jog someone's mind.



6 posted on 07/26/2006 11:03:55 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Is that a black & white photo in reality?
I don't know of many folks who have black & white snapshots except maybe people who do their own developing in their own dark rooms.....


7 posted on 07/26/2006 11:05:50 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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To: hispanarepublicana
When I was in Jr. High, I had a cheerleading uniform, the top of which, looked like the part of the shirt the little dark headed girl is wearing.

That was exactly what I was thinking when I posed my question in the above post. Of course this all could be settled quickly if Segundo was helped a bit with his memory.

8 posted on 07/26/2006 11:05:56 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: mtbopfuyn

There looks to be another person on the right that's been cut off but he/she appears to be sitting in another seat. Might be bucket seats or no a car. Still seems to me if the police really wanted to id the girls, they'd have tried to analyze the picture and provide the public with the information. On the other hand, it would be really p*ssy of them to publish the pictures if they already knew the id's but were merely playing a game with the pervert.


9 posted on 07/26/2006 11:09:53 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I thought it looked like the photographer's finger over the lens in part of the frame (I know how that looks from experience, unfortunately).


10 posted on 07/26/2006 11:11:26 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I hope they put that monster to death. He deserves to die!


11 posted on 07/26/2006 11:14:19 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G. I.)
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To: nuconvert
They look like they could be on a ride at an amusement park or something. It might just be the way the picture is cropped.

If you look more closely, you can see that they're in a car, with one girl in the front passenger seat, and the other in the back.

12 posted on 07/26/2006 11:15:42 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Looks like it was cut out of a magazine or brochure.
13 posted on 07/26/2006 11:15:50 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Probably photos off of MySpace.


14 posted on 07/26/2006 11:16:40 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: NYer; trussell; tiredoflaundry; Salvation; narses; SJackson; Alouette

Could you please ping your lists with this thread, if you think it is appropriate? I know it is off topic and all.

Someone may know these girls.


15 posted on 07/26/2006 11:17:10 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Such sadness in those eyes.


16 posted on 07/26/2006 11:18:24 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: msnimje

Sodium pentathol will make Segundo sing like a canary.


17 posted on 07/26/2006 11:18:49 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Sonuvabitch! This guy was on the loose for twenty years? He has probably killed a dozen girls.

Bring back hanging in the public square for all child molesters/murderers!


18 posted on 07/26/2006 11:20:18 AM PDT by Palladin (The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

A bit off topic, but I wish parents would stop letting pre-teen girls get their ears pierced and wear adult-style jewelry. Same with letting them dress like Britney Spears. That kind of stuff doesn't help when we're dealing with an apparent epidemic of these child sexual predators.


19 posted on 07/26/2006 11:23:40 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: NRA2BFree

>>>I hope they put that monster to death. He deserves to die! >>>

Of course he won't. We have too many people that are worried about HIM.

I would personally love to be an executioner on alot of these cases.


20 posted on 07/26/2006 11:32:54 AM PDT by sandbar
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