Posted on 07/24/2006 9:33:39 PM PDT by freespirited
Needless to say, she wouldn't allow that.
So sad. A good person who was misled about what would actually benefit her was supposedly "evil" and dangerous. A victim of propaganda.
Forever changed my view toward drug laws.
Understood.
Can we please stop with these idiotic my sister had chemo and then got alzheimers type lies?
There is no connection or there probably wasn't between them getting chemo and getting alzheimers. Just a coincidence they were diagnosed at that time.
Millions of people go through chemo every year and are alive because of it.
My brother died 2 days after going to a Cubs game. Does that mean going to the game killed him? No.
It was dangerous...for her son who would have had to try to obtain it... and who would likely have been caught because he wasn't "in" enough to get hold of it safely.
Imagine how he felt.
Why do you think they are lies?
Two possibilities: coincidence and causal.
The causal version is simple: there is a possiblity that severe stress can precipitate symptoms. Enough anecdotes and someone may research the possibility. Sort of like the anecdotes that an antibiotic course alleviated ulcer symptoms.
That's the thing. I am as anti-recreational drug as anyone, but medical marijuana is something that should be legal. It's being used for medical reasons. It's not just some pothead taking a hit for fun.
It's like when Rush had his drug problems. I don't blame anyone going through that much pain.
I cannot think of any reason why I would want to muddle my head with "recreational" drugs. Don't smoke, don't drink. No longer criticize those who do.
After this experience, and knowing a young woman who is planning on suicide when the pain (several year's worth, unremitting) gets beyond bearable, I've decided that I'm going to be very, very careful about who and what I condemn for actions that do not harm others.
Paranoia inducing stimulants might be the one area that should be addressed by law enforcememnt. Euphorics, tranquilizers, pain relievers and suchlike are really not my business.
The way modern science works is not to have somebody "visit" a clinic. What does that show other than a Potemkin village?
And how would you "investigate" my claim that my new invention made up of extracts of avocado skin and banana leaves cures Hodgkin's disease?
Would you treat 100 kids with regimes that a have had a high documented success rate in the past and treat 100 kids with my new Bananacado Formula and see whether they live or die?
Only if I had presented data that showed that my new Bananacado Formula actually worked and that these many kids survived on my new Bananacado Formula and these many kids died my new Bananacado Formula and those numbers were at least equal to or better than the numbers you get with other treatments.
Show me the published data on the documented success rate that the Hoxsey method has in curing Hodgkin's disease in childhood.
If there is no such data, then the Hoxsey method will be given the same degree of skepticism as my new Bananacado Formula.
My Bananacado formula usually costs $10,000 but, as a special offer, I will sell it to anybody that brings a copy of this post for only $5,000. (Offer good only at the Banacado Formula Clinic in Guadalajara, Mexico.)
If you have a treatable form of cancer, what do you have to lose by using my Bananacado Formula and foregoing other treatments that make you nauseous? ............ Except your money and your life?
It's obvious that you didn't read the article at the link supplied. Have it your way. Your problem, not mine. Deal with it. Or don't. Makes no difference to me.
Anectodatal reports by a journalist writing for "New Age" magazine does not mean squat when you have to advise a patient about what the odds are with each type of treatment for his type of cancer.
I "deal with it" every day in my medical practice. The difference between the two of us is that you have the luxury of putting out unsubstantiated claims that are not supported by any outcome data and nobody pays for your advice with their lives.
Rhetoric from the supporters of public-school say that if public schools were eliminated in favor of the free market providing schooling that private schools would not take bad kids. I doubt it would be even a small fraction as many kids as public schools coerce "bad" kids to take Ritalin.
Standard operating procedure for the FDA is to let five, six, ten or more people suffer or die from lack of medication or therapy rather than grant FDA approval for the drug or therapy that causes one person to suffer or die from the drug or therapy. That's government/FDA forced prohibition of life saving, suffer-reducing drugs.
Are you for or against the WOD? Consistent to principle I am against the government forcing prohibition of drugs or therapy and against the forced ingestion of drugs or therapy. The common denominator is force. Specifically, the initiation of force.
My posts dealt strictly with the efficacy of the state-of-the-medical-art treatments for Hodgkin's disease (which have a success rate in the +90% range) in comparison to the claims made by the Herbs and Tofu Will Cure Your Cancer crowd who make many claims but have no numbers to back them up.
Whether or not a 16 year old and his parents have a right to have the teenager choose to commit suicide is a totally separate issue.
Out here on the Left Coast, we have lots of these ultra-organic types.
I have seen a young patient walk away from therapy for a very curable cancer that was shrinking away and was almost completely gone on her CT Scan in order to reject the "poisons" and the nausea and embrace the Herbs and Tofu Will Cure Your Cancer crowd.
I have seen that same patient return home months later with the cancer having grown to the size of a football after the Herbs and Tofu Will Cure Your Cancer crowd had done their voodoo.
I have seen that patient being eaten alive by that cancer in a manner too gruesome to describe on this Forum.
I have seen that patient cry out in anguish over "how stupid it was" to have believed the false claims of the Herbs and Tofu Will Cure Your Cancer crowd.
Did that patient have a legal right to commit suicide by following the Herbs and Tofu Will Cure Your Cancer crowd?
Yes.
Does that mean that I am then supposed to just say nothing while the Herbs and Tofu Will Cure Your Cancer crowd convinces some other cancer patient who may be reading this Forum to commit suicide?
Hell no!
Are you for or against the WOD? Consistent to principle I am against the government forcing prohibition of drugs or therapy and against the forced ingestion of drugs or therapy. Because a government that can force a person to not take a drug can force a person to take a drug. The common denominator is force. Specifically, the initiation of force.
The article exposes how the social worker-judge duo violate individual rights.
It was a Virginia social worker that determined the treatments would not be as effective as conventional treatments, and sought relief from Family Court Judge Jesse E. Demps in Accomac, Va. That judge, who found the boy's parents to be "neglectful," ordered the teen to report to Children's Hospital of the King's Daughters in Norfolk by 1 p.m.
Who was it that said never out your trust in a person whom could only get a government job?
LOL! I don't remember who said that one.
I'm just wondering why the social worker and the judge aren't being prosecuted for making medical determinations without a license. :-)
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