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Can Israel Win?
NY Post ^ | July 22, 2006 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 07/22/2006 7:28:42 AM PDT by wjersey

ISRAEL is losing this war. For a lifelong Israel supporter, that's a painful thing to write. But it's true. And the situation's worsening each day. A U.S. government official put it to me this way: "Israel's got the clock, but Hezbollah's got the time." The sands of the hourglass favor the terrorists - every day they hold out and drop more rockets on Israel, Hezbollah scores a propaganda win.

All Hezbollah has to do to achieve victory is not to lose completely. But for Israel to emerge the acknowledged winner, it has to shatter Hezbollah. Yet Israeli miscalculations have left Hezbollah alive and kicking.

Israel has to pull itself together now, to send in ground troops in sufficient numbers, with fierce resolve to do what must be done: Root out Hezbollah fighters and kill them. This means Israel will suffer painful casualties - more today than if the Israeli Defense Force had gone in full blast at this fight's beginning.

The situation is grave. A perceived Hezbollah win will be a massive victory for terror, as well as a triumph for Iran and Syria. And everybody loves a winner - especially in the Middle East, where Arabs and Persians have been losing so long.

Israel can't afford a Hezbollah win. America can't afford it. Civilization can't afford it. Yet it just might happen.

Israel tried to make war halfway, and only made a mess.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ralphpeters
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1 posted on 07/22/2006 7:28:42 AM PDT by wjersey
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To: wjersey

it depends on where the statement, "when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies....it will be made desolate" [paraphrase] is on the historical and prophetic calendar.


2 posted on 07/22/2006 7:30:30 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (dust off the big guns.)
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To: wjersey

This is an absurdly negative take on this war.


3 posted on 07/22/2006 7:30:39 AM PDT by veronica (Now they're Clown Passe...)
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To: wjersey

Peters has said before that he thinks that Israel (and/or the US) must effect regime change in Syria for this to work out well.


4 posted on 07/22/2006 7:30:48 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: wjersey

Ralph, you are jumping the gun a bit. Israel said it was going to destroy Hezbollah, and they are just getting started. Don't sound like the NY Times calling Iraq a quagmire 3 days into the war because of a sandstorm.


5 posted on 07/22/2006 7:31:23 AM PDT by pissant
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To: wjersey

If the rest of the world lets them complete the mission unhindered, then yes they will win.


6 posted on 07/22/2006 7:31:48 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: wjersey

Thanks a lot for the morale booster.

Look, Israel can win. We're Republicans here because we believe in the right thing no matter what the situation is and we never surrender.


7 posted on 07/22/2006 7:31:53 AM PDT by Quark606
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To: wjersey
Ralph is good at military analysis, but he can miss the political aspect by a mile.

IMO Israel has already scored a mammoth victory in this conflict. They did not get the usual automatic condemnation from the entire Arab world. Instead, countries such as Saudia Arabia and Jordan ripped into Hizbollah for starting the conflict. And I have sensed a considerable drop-off of support for Hamas as well.

The Arab world is starting to re-align along its traditional Sunni-Shia axis of conflict that was interrupted by the formation of Israel. And that is very good news for Israel. They now have a chance to deal only with their direct threats without drawing in other countries.

8 posted on 07/22/2006 7:32:34 AM PDT by dirtboy (Glad to see the ink was still working in Bush's veto pen, now that he wisely used it on this bill)
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To: wjersey

Easy solution:

For each missile that hits Israel = 10 bombs on Iran and Syria.

Never mind Hezbolla!

But it would take courage to do that...


9 posted on 07/22/2006 7:33:01 AM PDT by observer5 ("Better violate the rights of a few sometimes, than of all always!!)
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To: pissant
It seems to me that in the first few days Hez was getting far more missiles into Israel. Has the number not decreased?? Is the Hez leader not hiding in a bunker?
10 posted on 07/22/2006 7:33:22 AM PDT by veronica (Now they're Clown Passe...)
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To: wjersey

The way that you lose a war against terrorists is if you weaken the use of force and allow liberals, socialists, and other undesirables to water down your policies, negotiate with these nutcases, and enact appeasement strategies. Islamics see negotiation and early pull-out as weakness. If you're negotiating, you must have hidden weaknesses and are ripe for counter-attack.


11 posted on 07/22/2006 7:33:46 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: dirtboy

Great post.


12 posted on 07/22/2006 7:33:48 AM PDT by veronica (Now they're Clown Passe...)
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To: americanstrategist

BTW they said the same thing about Afganistan. It took a while for the rats to be bombed out.


13 posted on 07/22/2006 7:33:54 AM PDT by observer5 ("Better violate the rights of a few sometimes, than of all always!!)
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To: wjersey

The liberal message is as clear as always: in all cases, SURRENDER.


14 posted on 07/22/2006 7:34:23 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: veronica

Yes, but they were small missiles. Israel has been going to town on Hezbollah with enormous weapons.


15 posted on 07/22/2006 7:34:41 AM PDT by Quark606
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To: wjersey

Israel cannot lose and she will not lose.


16 posted on 07/22/2006 7:34:52 AM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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To: dirtboy
They did not get the usual automatic condemnation from the entire Arab world. Instead, countries such as Saudia Arabia and Jordan ripped into Hizbollah for starting the conflict.

Yes, that is unprecedented.

17 posted on 07/22/2006 7:35:04 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: wjersey

Don't worry. It's not too late for Israel to open up a can on Hezbollah.


18 posted on 07/22/2006 7:36:14 AM PDT by Disturbin (Bush won, I keep my gun.)
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To: veronica
This is an absurdly negative take on this war.

It hasn't taken long for the usual suspects to call it lost.
19 posted on 07/22/2006 7:36:40 AM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: wjersey

There's a Negative Nelly in Sector 7!


20 posted on 07/22/2006 7:37:15 AM PDT by SerpentDove (No weapon forged against Israel will prevail. - Isaiah 54:17)
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