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1 posted on 07/19/2006 7:49:53 PM PDT by MindBender26
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The death cult, instead of putting their energy into fixing up their horrible failed societies, put all their energy into murdering others.


164 posted on 07/20/2006 5:27:17 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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Silly, superstitious nonsense.
165 posted on 07/20/2006 5:42:04 AM PDT by JasonC
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The S.S. Eastland was a ship that was top heavy, as it was leaving port most of the passengers went to the port side to wave to people on shore, which doomed the vessel because of it's instability and too many passengers aboard, killing 844 people. It is a fascinating maritime story involving bribes and corruption.

The 1915 Eastland Disaster

It was close to seven o'clock in the morning of Saturday, July 24, 1915, and the S. S. Eastland was getting ready to cast off from her dock between LaSalle and Clark streets on the south bank of the Chicago River. A lake passenger steamer, the S. S. Eastland had been chartered by Chicago's Western Electric Company to transport the company's employees (and their families), to their annual picnic in Michigan City, Indiana. Built by the Jenks Ship Building Co., and recently purchased by the Indiana Transportation Co., the S. S. Eastland had been in trouble from the time it had entered regular service in 1903. In an attempt to correct the steamship's troublesome listing tendencies, its licensed capacity had been reduced several times: from 3,300 passengers down to 2,800... then 2400... and finally (a still unofficial) 1,125. Then, a mere three weeks before the Western Electric Company's picnic, inspector Robert Reid granted the S. S. Eastland an amended certificate, allowing her to carry 2,500 passengers once again. At 7:28 a.m., still moored to her Chicago River dock and with 2,572 people on board, the S. S. Eastland began to list. The steamship managed to briefly right herself before slowly rolling on her side. 844 people died that day in what would turn out to be Chicago's worst disaster ever.


166 posted on 07/20/2006 5:45:35 AM PDT by Toespi
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The current question then is; was it attempted sabotage?

I think it is...for many of the reasons you cite...

Third world crew, economic devastation, large death toll, easy civilian target.


169 posted on 07/20/2006 6:26:02 AM PDT by milford421
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I heard it wass the Captain's first run without the training wheels.


176 posted on 07/20/2006 6:55:15 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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Sounds like the ship snagged a fishing net or some other object underwater. imho


202 posted on 07/20/2006 7:54:28 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero » with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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This article's ridiculousness is only exceeded by its irresponsibility. First off, the author states that these ships are barely seaworthy. No credibility to start. You think a company would spend $750 million on a ship that's "barely seaworthy"?

Second, its easy to see how this can happen. I had a similiar incident happen to me. Modern ships are completely automated integrated. In my situation, while steaming at 24 knots, the ship's speed sensor quite communicating with the auto-pilot. This caused the autopilot to think I was traveling at 0 knots; and therefore applied a full rudder to make a small course change. (When you go slow, you need to use more rudder). Needless to say, 35 degrees of rudder while doing 24 knots will cause you to roll pretty dang significantly.

There are many other things that could cause this ship to heel... terrorism isn't one of them.

205 posted on 07/20/2006 1:47:13 PM PDT by Fan of Fiat
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>Did We Just Witness Another Attempted Huge Terrorist Attack Against America?

Let's just thank heavens
Sandra Bullock was on board
to save those people!

208 posted on 07/20/2006 3:36:48 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Two factors are on everyone in the federal law enforcement and news media fields minds tonight.(Boldface mine)

Let me try this one more time...

SOURCES?????

213 posted on 07/20/2006 6:02:58 PM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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