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Immigration and Usurpation: Elites, Power, and the People’s Will
Center for Immigration Studies ^ | July 2006 | Fredo Arias-King

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:28:43 AM PDT by AppleButter

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To: texastoo
"While Democratic legislators we spoke with welcomed the Latino vote, they seemed more interested in those immigrants and their offspring as a tool to increase the role of the government in society and the economy. Several of them tended to see Latin American immigrants and even Latino constituents as both more dependent on and accepting of active government programs and the political class guaranteeing those programs, a point they emphasized more than the voting per se. Moreover, they saw Latinos as more loyal and "dependable" in supporting a patron-client system and in building reliable patronage networks to circumvent the exigencies of political life as devised by the Founding Fathers and expected daily by the average American.

"Also curiously, the Republican enthusiasm for increased immigration also was not so much about voting in the end, even with "converted" Latinos. Instead, these legislators seemingly believed that they could weaken the restraining and frustrating straightjacket devised by the Founding Fathers and abetted by American norms. In that idealized "new" United States, political uncertainty, demanding constituents, difficult elections, and accountability in general would "go away" after tinkering with the People, who have given lawmakers their privileges but who, like a Sword of Damocles, can also "unfairly" take them away. Hispanics would acquiesce and assist in the "natural progress" of these legislators to remain in power and increase the scope of that power. In this sense, Republicans and Democrats were similar."

So, as usual, when it comes to power, perks and privileges, there is little difference between the Rats and the Republicans. They want to replace the white American voter with a more servile, beholden class of ethnic voters. After all, us loyal Americans keep talking about that pesky Constitution.

There are a few, and only a few, of our politicians who deserve to escape the rope...

81 posted on 11/11/2006 4:50:04 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Netizen

What legal means do citizens have to reign in rogue politician and outright traitors?


82 posted on 11/11/2006 7:03:17 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
What legal means do citizens have to reign in rogue politician and outright traitors?

Yeah, that's the question.

83 posted on 11/11/2006 7:17:57 PM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: Netizen
Recall, impeachment, criminal proceedings. Do you know the DA in your county, the Sheriff? Will they respond to the citizens in your county? Counties are the place to start, they are the most local entity of constitutional government. Some people have city or town councils, the unincorporated rely on county government. Time for the counties, the county sheriffs, to act to preserve constitutional government, they have a duty to do so.
84 posted on 11/11/2006 8:15:52 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Netizen

Have you ever studied the Klamath Basin crisis? How about the citizens of Jarbridge and their shovel brigade? Good place to start.


85 posted on 11/11/2006 8:20:59 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Recall,

Its a possibility, but too much time has passed for it to be truly effective. imo

impeachment

Has to be started by the House.

criminal proceedings.

Same as impeachment??

Do you know the DA in your county, the Sheriff? Will they respond to the citizens in your county? Counties are the place to start, they are the most local entity of constitutional government. Some people have city or town councils, the unincorporated rely on county government. Time for the counties, the county sheriffs, to act to preserve constitutional government, they have a duty to do so.

Its a possibility, but in your opinion how successful do you think this option would be?

86 posted on 11/11/2006 8:36:38 PM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Only vaguely familiar.


87 posted on 11/11/2006 8:38:13 PM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: Netizen
Has to be started by the House

Who does the House represent?
88 posted on 11/11/2006 11:56:48 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: dalereed
When I got back to Loretto the next day the comandante was in jail.

Any mordita is supposed to be split half to his superior and that half to his superior until it reaches Mexico City.

So, this is the Mexican form of multi-level marketing.

89 posted on 11/12/2006 1:12:27 AM PST by Colorado Buckeye (It's the culture stupid!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Who does the House represent?

Themselves.

90 posted on 11/12/2006 6:10:31 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: Netizen

That is one thing citizens can fix.

Now here's another...


Gaston: No funds for illegal residents

Gaston County commissioners have directed county officials to stop funding programs for undocumented immigrants in what marks the Charlotte region's most aggressive measure against illegal immigration.

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/15986433.htm


91 posted on 11/12/2006 8:20:11 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
That is one thing citizens can fix.

I think it's too late to fix the present parties and it will be a while before a third is viable. It may be too late to do anything about it through political channels at the national level anymore.

Gaston: No funds for illegal residents

Yes, I mentioned in another thread a few says back, that I think the states need to act immediately regarding illegals. But again, when the PINO sign that guest worker scamnesty, then it will too late. It will be a done deal because all those millions will be voting against us, EVEN AT THE STATE LEVEL.

92 posted on 11/12/2006 9:39:19 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: Netizen
I think it's too late

Might as well join the voluntary human extinction movement then.
93 posted on 11/12/2006 10:05:25 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Facts are facts. Whne his scamnesty goes through they will have the numbers against us. I didn't volunteer for that, its just the way the numbers shake out after the shake down.


94 posted on 11/12/2006 11:06:06 AM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: jpsb
Well it has taken the elite 200 years but they have finally figured out how to kill the American middle class and it uppity Constitution.

You have hit the nail on the head. America's political culture is being undermined, deliberately. Immigrants know nothing of our history - Thomas Paine, Patrick Henry, the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, the Emancipation Proclamation, the 14th Amendment, and so on. They don't understand, and so cannot value, their freedom. They make perfect serfs.

95 posted on 11/12/2006 11:41:53 AM PST by tvdog12345
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To: Netizen
Whne his scamnesty goes through they will have the numbers against us.

When or if?
96 posted on 11/12/2006 11:43:45 AM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: tvdog12345
That and let's not forget dumbing down of public schools, two tactics aimed at making Americans ignorant of their history and thus more easily lead into serfdom.
97 posted on 11/12/2006 11:47:38 AM PST by jpsb
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To: hedgetrimmer
The ruling class is willing to toss away the nation just to keep the Federal government solvent. The pyramid scheme (SS, medicare) needs more players or it will collaspe.
98 posted on 11/12/2006 11:51:02 AM PST by jpsb
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To: jpsb

Let it collapse. Lets take our medicine so we can be free again.


99 posted on 11/12/2006 12:01:41 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
I agree, get the hard times over with and go back to being a free independent nation.
100 posted on 11/12/2006 12:09:28 PM PST by jpsb
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