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To: lepton
Without getting into the varying definitions of natural, and using what I think is yours...I don't think I implied otherwise.

You didn't. What I objected to in the article is the false dichotomy between human endeavor and the natural world that is ultimately an importation from subjective metaphysics.

85 posted on 07/18/2006 10:37:31 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: AntiGuv
You didn't. What I objected to in the article is the false dichotomy between human endeavor and the natural world that is ultimately an importation from subjective metaphysics.

O.K. I'd agree. I was off on a tangent. :)

I was more referring to the difference between a domesticated bunny or cat, and a domesticated dog. We've "been" with dogs for so long and so closely that not only have we caused them to have certain inate traits (as a generality - obviously the strengths and utilizations of these traits varies considerably between individuals), but they appear to have induced in us a sort of "tool set" that we can use in relating specifically to dogs, if we don't forget them while we reprogram our brains (grow up).

129 posted on 07/18/2006 12:48:40 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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