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Target threatens to leave city (Chicago) if 'big-box' wage rule passes
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 14, 2006 | FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter

Posted on 07/14/2006 4:02:49 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

Target is putting plans to build three South Side stores "on hold" -- and making veiled threats to close existing Chicago stores -- if the City Council mandates wage and benefit standards for "big-box" retailers, African-American aldermen warned Thursday.

The saber-rattling is intensifying as the clock winds down toward a July 26 showdown vote on plans to make Chicago the nation's first major city to establish a "living wage" for stores with at least 90,000 square feet of space operated by retailers with $1 billion in sales.

Minneapolis-based Target becomes the second retailing giant to threaten to pull out of the lucrative Chicago market in a last-ditch effort to stop an ordinance championed by organized labor that breezed through the City Council's Finance Committee 15-6 and has attracted support from 33 aldermen.

WAGE WAR

The current federal minimum wage is $5.15 an hour. Illinois' minimum wage is $6.50

Most Chicago area Wal-Mart employees average $10.99 an hour, with just a few making the starting wage of $7.25 an hour, Wal-Mart spokesman John Bisio recently said.

As of 2004, Target in many cities had a starting salary of about $7 an hour, published reports said. A few Target workers outside Illinois said they recently started with salaries as low as $6.25 an hour, according to postings on the Target Union! (www.targetunion.org) Web site for store employees.

Wal-Mart has threatened to cancel plans to build as many as 20 Chicago stores over the next five years if retailers are required to pay employees at least $10 an hour and $3 in benefits by July 1, 2010.

'It would be devastation for us'

Mayor Daley is taking the threat seriously. He has challenged aldermen who oppose Wal-Mart's 20-store expansion to describe how they would replace the 8,000 lost jobs.

Target failed to return calls on the admonition communicated to aldermen of the 5th, 9th and 34th wards in recent days. Target real estate executive Chris Case was scheduled to meet with African-American aldermen Thursday, but the meeting was canceled because of scheduling conflicts.

Ald. Carrie Austin (34th) said a Target pullout would be devastating to the 32-acre shopping mall at 119th and Marshfield that developers had hoped to build, with help from a $23 million city subsidy. Home Depot would likely follow Target out the door. As many as 1,000 jobs would be lost, Austin said.

"It would be devastation for us. Our largest employer in the 34th Ward is the Police Department. The second-largest for us would be Jewel. We have no other resources," Austin said.

Referring to the anti-Wal-Mart movement that gave birth to the big-box ordinance, Austin said, "If you want to bully up on Wal-Mart, you've got to bring in the other ones, and damned if you do on them. If they suffer from it, too bad. If you want to control Wal-Mart, you should go about that a different way."

Accused of 'bullying tactics'

Ald. Leslie Hairston (5th) said she has a letter of intent from Target to build a new store at Marquette and Stony Island in her ward. But the developer has told her the store is "on hold" and that Target may close existing Chicago stores if the big-box ordinance goes through.

Hairston called it little more than a scare tactic. And even if the threat turns out to be real, she's standing firm in support of organized labor.

"Wal-Mart and Target could pay their people a living wage. Then we wouldn't have this problem, and people could actually live on the money they made," Hairston said.

Ald. Joe Moore (49th), chief sponsor of the big-box ordinance, accused Target and Wal-Mart of using "bullying tactics" to stop a train that has already left the station.

"It's an idle threat. ... They're clearly trying to ... intimidate members of the City Council. I am very hopeful that members will hold firm. ... The votes are still there," Moore said. He predicted 33 votes for the ordinance, "maybe more," even though Daley has been buttonholing aldermen to try to stop it.

Ald. Howard Brookins (21st) is still searching for a big-box retailer to replace the Wal-Mart his colleagues nixed at 83rd and Stewart.

Brookins said Wal-Mart executives have told him they may take the lead of the riverboat casinos that ring Chicago and run free shuttle buses to their suburban stores if the big-box ordinance passes.

"I don't know if it was in jest, but they did say it. ... That is an option that they could employ. They could set up locations to have pickup and dropoff. I don't think that is that farfetched," Brookins said.

fspielman@suntimes.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: atlasshrugs; chicago; idiots; socialism; target; tarzhay; walmart
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To: wanderin
I see my attorney and my physician and their families both shop at Wal Mart here.

I have run into my family doc (retired) several times at Menards and Wal-Mart, professionals want the same best prices they can get just like everyone else.

He even asked my advice about rewiring his house, I gave him my best advice and told him that there were a lot of dead amateur electricians.

141 posted on 07/14/2006 8:49:28 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Hazcat
What does $7.25 have to do with it? The article says $10.00 PLUS $3.00 in benefits.

The thug unions control Chicago. Their existing contract escalators are tied to the mandated minimum wage.

A raise in the minimum raise increases the entire union scale.

142 posted on 07/14/2006 8:56:20 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Graybeard58
I gave him my best advice and told him that there were a lot of dead amateur electricians.

ZOT........

(sorry couldn't resist)

143 posted on 07/14/2006 9:03:40 AM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Brilliant

".........increasing the minimun wage is not as significant..."

So you say! Calculate all of the contract wages that are tied to the minimum wage. They all go up. Calculate all of the additional revenue govt will rake in. Why do you think unions and government are in bed on this issue?


144 posted on 07/14/2006 9:17:15 AM PDT by burroak
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To: Mr. Brightside
Just like EVERY other big corp Target and Walmart are pushing for another tax break. Increasing the minimum wage is no big deal, like you said. Even the $3.00 in benes means nothing since a majority of Walmart and Target Employees are PT and don't get benes.

Heck, pretty soon all we'll have is PT jobs with no benes and be forced to accept Social Healthcare.

But as long as the Politicians, Lawyers and Corporate Execs are happy all is well!

145 posted on 07/14/2006 9:17:37 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: 100%FEDUP
pretty soon all we'll have is PT jobs with no benes

If you don't have any skills, any education or any ambition to improve yourself, you are probably right.

146 posted on 07/14/2006 9:37:23 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: 100%FEDUP

And which union do you belong to?


147 posted on 07/14/2006 9:48:37 AM PDT by John D
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To: caver

Sounds like a good place to open a donut shop.


148 posted on 07/14/2006 10:07:33 AM PDT by X-FID (LOL (Land Of Legislation))
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To: X-FID

Hah! I never thought of that.


149 posted on 07/14/2006 10:13:08 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Mr. Brightside; John D
I've got plenty of skills and ambition. I don't belong to a union. I deal with reality. We live in a service based society, skilled labor is not required, neither are FT staffs. Corporations save more money paying 150 PTers than 50 FTers. It's the new businees model. You don't believe me, look at the want ads sometime.

But like I said as long as the Politicians, Lawyers and Corporate Execs are happy all is well.

Which group do the two of you come from?

150 posted on 07/14/2006 10:22:59 AM PDT by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: HIDEK6

Typical union crap. I'm so happy I live in a "right to work" state.


151 posted on 07/14/2006 10:38:16 AM PDT by Hazcat
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To: Brilliant
"It's not profitable to break a bunch of leases and close shop,

Not sure how Target does business but Wal-Mmart buys their properties, so they have no leases to break.

152 posted on 07/14/2006 10:44:39 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg ("`Eddies,' said Ford, `in the space-time continuum.' `Ah,' nodded Arthur, `is he? Is he?'")
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To: 100%FEDUP
Walmart and Target Employees are PT

You are wrong about W-M, I don't know about Target.

153 posted on 07/14/2006 10:48:12 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: stopem
Personally I can't see how people are able to rent an apt, buy food, pay for utilities if they are earning $8 and hour which probably nets about $6 and hour, however earning say $10 an hour would net about $8.00 per hr. $6 x 40 hours is $240 a week, under $1,000 a month, apartments are about $400 to $800 a month which than places the burden on the taxpayer as the wage earner is than able to receive welfare benefits, section 8 housing, etc.

They aren't able to. If you continue to wish for the impossible, your life will be one filled with disappointment.

These are not "living wage" jobs. These are not "living wage" jobs. These are not "living wage" jobs. These are not "living wage" jobs. These are not "living wage" jobs. These are not "living wage" jobs.

These jobs will not enable you to:
---Raise a family
---Buy a home
---retire at age 55
---buy a boat and RV

I hope I was able to help.

154 posted on 07/14/2006 10:50:09 AM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: stopem
As I said as a taxpayer I don't want to have to pay for these low wage earners receiving section 8 and welfare benefits so I see no need for the insults in answer to what I posted.

If they aren't employed, what will you be paying for?

155 posted on 07/14/2006 10:52:14 AM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: Hazcat
So do I. I did a trade show once, though, in McCormack Place, and had to deal with the unions.

I'll never go back.

156 posted on 07/14/2006 10:53:54 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: AmericaUnited
For once I'm proud of something "French", showing some brass ones.

From snopes.com: The Target Corporation is a publicly held, U.S.-based firm which has been headquartered in Minneapolis, Minnesota, since it began as the Dayton Dry Goods Company in 1902. Target is not now, nor has it ever been, foreign-owned. (A French-based financial institution, AXA, holds about 42 million shares of Target stock, but that holding constitutes less than 5% of Target Corporation's outstanding shares.)

157 posted on 07/14/2006 10:54:11 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: DTogo
Why not make the minimum "living wage" at least $20/hour plus 401(k) and benefits, maybe higher?

D@mn straight...these b@stards want to buy people off pretty cheap, don't they? That shows no respect.

158 posted on 07/14/2006 10:55:49 AM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: HIDEK6

Used to have to deal with them in the trucking industry. Talk about thugs!


159 posted on 07/14/2006 10:57:27 AM PDT by Hazcat
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To: Graybeard58
I think they should force all the big stores to run charity stores where all the merchandise is free to people who live in the neighborhood.

They had a couple of those stores in New Orleans.

They used to...

160 posted on 07/14/2006 10:57:55 AM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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