[curiosity]

I'm sure Professor Barr will be insulted that you are lumping his book in together with that of the charlatans at the Discovery Institute.

[DanDenDar]

I'm sure Professor Barr will be insulted that you are lumping his book in together with that of the charlatans at the Discovery Institute.

Yes, I thought that was odd. But then, Dembski seems almost indignant that Ken Miller and Francis Collins, both theistic evolutionists, reject ID.