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To: Dead Corpse
"I recommend you start at the beginning and read the early purposed drafts"

No, I recommend you point out where the second amendment to the U.S. Constitution was to protect this individual RKBA.

64 posted on 07/13/2006 3:32:05 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
The Founders never once speak of Rights being anything other than individual.

Speech given as a preamble to introducing one of the final forms for the Constitution, complete with "the Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

Note: It doesn't say sh*t about "the Right of a State to keep and bear a militia". It doesn't say the "right of a community to regulate firearms ownership." It clearly states the "right of the people".

And in the State debates it was worded thusly:
Mr. Wythe:
That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided, as far as the circumstances and protection of the community will admit; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

Still other variations of the Amendment read like this:
A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed, but no one religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.

You don't have to like it Bobby, but you will not be allowed to get away with such outrageous lies.

In the New York Debates, they worded it this way:
That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well-regulated militia, including the body of the people capable of bearing arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free state.
That the militia should not be subject to martial law, except in time of war, rebellion, or insurrection.

In Delaware they capitalized "People:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

But otherwise the same...

When Vermont sent their ratification in, they included this:
Do, in virtue of the power and authority to us given for that purpose, fully and entirely approve of, assent to, and ratify, the said Constitution; and declare that, immediately from and after this state shall be admitted by the Congress into the Union, and to a full participation of the benefits of the government now enjoyed by the states in the Union, the same shall be binding on us, and the people of the state of Vermont, forever.

Or do you think John Adams didn't know what they were signing on to when he penned "the same shall be binding on us, and the people of the state of Vermont, forever"...

You are delusional.

66 posted on 07/13/2006 9:56:05 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (It is not the oath that makes us believe the man, but the man the oath.- Aeschylus)
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