[whispering out loud]

I understand how it works, and also how it evidently works for evos, We're scientist, and if you disagree with us, then you know nothing of Science, you can deny it all you like it, but that is how you all act, and it is how you come off. Get back to me when you are willing to actually reason, and discuss the subject not blindly shooting down anything that contradicts what you believe.

[Coyoteman]

You wrote: ahhh yes the well supported theories angle, theories which are well supported with other theories, which themselves are based on theories. And just where exactly are all these facts? Facts by the way can be irrefutably scientifically proven. Just for the record, I am looking for the facts directly supporting the toe, not the facts that support theories that support the toe.

I replied: Go study the scientific method and get back to me when you can understand how it works.

You came back with: I understand how it works, and also how it evidently works for evos, We're scientist, and if you disagree with us, then you know nothing of Science, you can deny it all you like it, but that is how you all act, and it is how you come off. Get back to me when you are willing to actually reason, and discuss the subject not blindly shooting down anything that contradicts what you believe.

Your initial comment had a number of errors. For example:

• ahhh yes the well supported theories angle, theories which are well supported with other theories, which themselves are based on theories

  Theories must be based on, and explain, facts. Theories do not explain other theories as their primary goal. Science is facts-and-theories. Facts alone have limited use and lack meaning. A valid theory organizes them into far greater usefulness.

• Facts by the way can be irrefutably scientifically proven.

  Nonsense. Facts are subject to change as more data come in. The speed of light is a "fact" but it has changed a bit in the last hundred years. The measurements are increasingly accurate.

  Also, I don't know of anything in science that can be 'irrefutably scientifically proven." Mathematics, perhaps, but that uses a different approach.

• Just for the record, I am looking for the facts directly supporting the toe, not the facts that support theories that support the toe.

  There are a lot of facts supporting the theory of evolution. They include all the facts in the fossil record and the genetic data. If significant facts go against a theory, it will have to be discarded or severely modified. That is where the Cambrian rabbits come in. All you have to do to disrupt the theory of evolution is find some. Better yet, find a bunch (because everyone knows there is no such thing as one rabbit).

When you argue against the theory of evolution, you have to bring scientific evidence to the table. Divine revelation, religious belief, wishful thinking, what 'the stars foretell,' public opinion, what the neighbors think, and the unguessable 'verdict of history' don't mean squat.