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Interesting the way the MSM is ignoring THIS part of Hoekstra's letter.

Copy of Hoekstra's letter (it's pdf, so give it some time to load)

Excerpt from his letter (on page 2):

"There has been much public and private speculation about the politicization of the agency. I am convinced that this politicization was underway well before Porter Goss became the Director. Is fact, I have been lung concerned that a strong and well - positioned group within the Agency intentionally undermined the Administration and its policies. This argument ie supported by the Ambassador Wilson/Valerie Plame events, as well as by the string of unauthorized disclosures from an orgauizatioin that prides iteelf with being able to keep secrets."

1 posted on 07/09/2006 10:41:29 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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And Bush should tell Hoekstra, "As soon as certain Senators (one rhymes with Cockerfeller) and CIA agents learn to STFU, I will be more forthcoming with my plans to protect this country from Terrorists."
2 posted on 07/09/2006 11:03:47 PM PDT by msnimje (There is no way we can lose if we stay in Iraq and no way we can win if we cut and run.)
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Step One: Check Larry Johnson or Michael Scheuer's contacts.


3 posted on 07/09/2006 11:07:55 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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One has to wonder if they are slimy clinton holdovers or simply "lets get the French to like us" State Department types...


5 posted on 07/09/2006 11:11:36 PM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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A lot of people have been waiting for this to float up. It ain't no big surprise; but public acknowledgment of it is tantamount to saying its 'out of control.'


6 posted on 07/09/2006 11:12:39 PM PDT by Khurkris (Things look different from over here.)
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...retired ambassador Joseph Wilson, made a 2002 trip to Niger to check on reports that Iraq had secretly tried to purchase uranium ore there.

The Bush administration had used those reports to accuse the government of then-Iraqi president Saddam Hussein of trying to secretly build a nuclear arsenal...

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

7 posted on 07/09/2006 11:14:52 PM PDT by BigBobber
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Very interesting ..??

In this month's issue of The Limbaugh Letter, Rush wrote a very strong article about the "Shadow Government": "Writhing and squirming under Democrat rocks, you'll find a rats' nest of Clinton holdovers and malignant leftist fellow-travelers, bent on running the show. ... "Circles within circles, incest upon incest - one might even call it a vast leftwing conspiracy. But it's important to remember that there's a single purpose behind all of it: to sabotage this Commancer-in-Chief who believes in, and uses, American power."

And Rush quoted this ... "The Bush Administration has unabashedly sought to enhance the powers of the executive branch as it wages what it calls a 'war on terror', many of whose components are classified secrets ... Labeling something 'classified' or important to 'national security' does not make it so ... [T]he definition of 'national security' is elusive".

"You get that? What the Bush Administration calls a "war on terror". It is a war on terror, you glittering jewel of colossal ignorance. And if you don't know what national security is, then shut the hell up."

"The drive-by media is blissfully supporting an unelected regime of treacherous snakes. In a time of war - that's war, not "war" - those in this anti-national-security shadow government hold a dagger to the American heart."

"It's time for them to redeploy. And, in the spirit of John Murtha, I have no objection to Okinawa." I JUST LOVE IT WHEN RUSH TELLS THESE PEOPLE OFF!! LOL!!!

11 posted on 07/09/2006 11:24:01 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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Only the bit about consultation with the committee was mentioned on the Foxnews Sunday show.


12 posted on 07/09/2006 11:27:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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The rest of the paragraph:

I have come to the belief that, despite his service to the DO, Mr. Kappes may have been part of this group. I must take note when my Democratic colleagues - those who so vehemently denounced and publicly attacked the strong choice of Proter Goss as Director - now publicly support Mr. Kappes's return.

Most interesting letter...

14 posted on 07/09/2006 11:29:01 PM PDT by jellybean (Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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Stephen Kappes, the former deputy director of operations at the CIA


resigned in protest against Goss's attempt to terminate the CIA's long-running war against the Bush administration, fought mostly via leaks to Dana Priest and her colleagues at the Washington Post; Priest, you will recall, wrote the bizarre story about secret CIA prisons in Europe


The incident that directly led to his resignation occurred in November 2004, shortly after Mr. Goss took over at the agency. Patrick Murray, who was Mr. Goss's chief of staff, ordered Mr. Kappes to fire his deputy, Michael Sulick, after Mr. Sulick had a testy exchange with Mr. Murray.

Mr. Kappes, who at the time was in charge of the C.I.A.'s clandestine service, refused and chose to resign instead.



According to Stephen Hayes...


On November 5, Goss's new chief of staff Patrick Murray confronted Mary Margaret Graham, then serving as associate deputy director for counterterrorism in the directorate of operations. The two discussed several items, including the prospective replacement for Kostiw, a CIA veteran named Kyle "Dusty" Foggo. Murray had a simple message: No more leaks.

Graham took offense at the accusatory warning and notified her boss, Michael Sulick, who in turn notified his boss, Stephen Kappes. A meeting of Goss, Murray, Sulick, and Kappes followed. Goss attended most of the meeting, in which the two new CIA leaders reiterated their concern about leaks. After Goss left, Murray once again warned the two career CIA officials that leaks would not be tolerated. According to a source with knowledge of the incident, Sulick took offense, called Murray "a Hill puke," and threw a stack of papers in his direction.

Goss summoned Kappes the following day. Although others in the new CIA leadership believed Sulick's behavior was an act of insubordination worthy of firing, Goss didn't go quite that far. He ordered Kappes to reassign Sulick to a position outside of the building. Goss suggested Sulick be named New York City station chief. Kappes refused and threatened to resign if Sulick were reassigned. Goss accepted his resignation and Sulick soon followed him out the door.



ABC News investigative reporter Brian Ross, guest-hosting the Charlie Rose show Monday night, interviewed former deputy CIA director John McLaughlin. Ross said that people he had spoken with "said that the selection of Kappes indicated the purge that Porter Goss had attempted was over, that it was back to business as usual as it had been 20 months ago." Ross asked McLaughlin: "Is that accurate?"

McLaughlin praised Kappes and replied, "Yeah, I think--I think that's basically an accurate assessment."




Stephen Hayes...

So it's business as usual at the CIA. The White House took on the Agency. And the Agency won.


http://tinyurl.com/ke2ba


17 posted on 07/10/2006 12:47:45 AM PDT by kcvl
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Michael Scheuer, head of the CIA's bin Laden unit from 1996 to 1999 who recently quit the agency in order to be free to criticize the intelligence community, said that CIA higher-ups had given him permission to speak to the media anonymously to "bash the president." Authorized or not, the result of the steady flow of leaks was the same. Bush was portrayed as incompetent and his policies disastrous. CIA-friendly reporters, eager to keep their sources happy, stuck to the agency line.


On Saturday, November 13, 2004, the escalating dispute over leaking was leaked to the Washington Post.


The top advisers Goss had brought with him from the Hill, according to the Post, were "disgruntled" former CIA officials "widely known" for their "abrasive management style" and for criticizing the agency. One had left the CIA after an undistinguished intelligence career and another is known for being "highly partisan."



On Wednesday the 17th, the New York Times ran a front-page story about an internal memo that Goss had sent agency employees. The headline and lede set the tone. "New CIA Chief Tells Workers to Back Administration Policies," were the words atop an article that began: "Porter J. Goss, the new intelligence chief, has told Central Intelligence Agency employees that their job is to 'support the administration and its policies in our work,' a copy of an internal memorandum shows."



John Roberts, anchoring CBS Evening News, wondered aloud, "What went wrong?" A Boston Globe editorial claimed the Goss "purge" was likely the "settling of partisan scores rather than an effort to introduce genuine accountability."


A CIA spokesperson criticized the Times account of the memo, charging that Goss's words were "taken out of context." In fact, much of the rest of his statement conveyed the opposite point. "



http://tinyurl.com/f9xzf


23 posted on 07/10/2006 12:55:22 AM PDT by kcvl
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Good article. This letter from Hoekstra just confirms what I've been suspecting all along.


24 posted on 07/10/2006 12:58:14 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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Sulick and others referred to Goss’s aides dismissively as "the Goslings" and refused to take orders from them, claiming they were "political hacks" because they had worked for Goss in Congress. Many in the media jumped in, accusing Goss and his staff of conducting a "witch hunt" for firing Sulick.


Rep. Curt Weldon (R.-Pa.) believes Kappes was a disaster as head of the CIA's directorate of operations, and called him "the ringleader of an internal CIA rebellion" against Goss. "He was one of many in the CIA resistant to needed reforms."

House Intelligence Chairman Peter Hoekstra (R.-Mich.) said Kappes was guilty of "gross insubordination" for his behavior at the agency under Goss and complained that the administration never consulted Congress before choosing him. "You would think that on the No. 2 person they might have just said, 'Hey, what do you think of this guy,' but they never did," he told the Washington Times.


In Countdown to Terror, Weldon says Kappes point-blank refused repeated pleas -- backed by then-CIA Director George Tenet -- to travel to Paris to meet with a potential Iranian source who claimed to have intelligence on Iran’s nuclear programs and on Iran's ties to Osama Bin Laden.

Weldon encouraged Kappes to investigate the credentials of his source, but got nowhere. "Finally, Kappes threatened me too. He warned me to stop working with [the source]… Fortunately, Kappes has now resigned from the CIA."



http://tinyurl.com/ev2fr


25 posted on 07/10/2006 12:58:56 AM PDT by kcvl
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Stephen R. Kappes


http://tinyurl.com/fz4f5


27 posted on 07/10/2006 1:01:51 AM PDT by kcvl
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And the punishment for treason is ???????


40 posted on 07/10/2006 3:02:14 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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The enemy from within ping!
41 posted on 07/10/2006 3:03:34 AM PDT by jan in Colorado (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum (If you wish for peace, prepare for war.))
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Hmm. Makes me wonder about Gen Hayden's plans for CIA reform. I believe Hayden to be a brilliant and ethical man with excellent leadership and managment skills and have to disagree with Hoekstra on his nomination.

But... Why would Hayden embrace a viper (Kappe?) as his deputy? I do not believe General Hayden is naive about the political inner workings at CIA. Keep your friends close but your enemies closer? Kappe is being unfairly portrayed by Hoekstra? Goss's "goslings" may have been as annoyingly prissy and inept as CIA career people perceived them to be?

There is more to this story...


44 posted on 07/10/2006 3:40:22 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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An interesting aspect to all this was a puzzling reference made by the FBI Director of it's New York office at the very beginning of the press conference held late last week to give information on the plot to blow up passenger tunnels in the city.
I thought he seemed angry that the plot was about to be revealed by someone (to the MSM, I presume) and that the press conference had to be called to head off it's unauthorized disclosure.
I'm just guessing that that someone was CIA, since it's unlikely that an FBI man would diss his own organization.
By the way, not one reporter followed up the Director's outburst to seek more details on just who and what he was talking about. Very strange.
50 posted on 07/10/2006 5:06:57 AM PDT by finnigan2
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54 posted on 07/10/2006 7:06:17 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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The document has been obtained by The New York Times and posted on its website in its entirety.

Your best guess as to how the NYT's obtained the letter? Hoekstra? An "official" leak by the administration?

55 posted on 07/10/2006 7:48:30 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Dissident CIA faction 'exposed'
A high-ranking Republican congressman has exposed what he sees as a dissident faction within the CIA that he says "intentionally undermined" the policies of US President George W Bush .... Rumours about the existence of such a group have circulated in the US capital for a long time ... that a strong and well-positioned group within the agency intentionally undermined the administration and its policies," ... The CIA has refused to comment on the charge.

I'm throwing this out for general perusal (tin foil hat firmly in place) .....

Back when JFK got whacked one of the theories was that a "rogue element" within the CIA took him out for 1) screwing up their little Bay of Pigs Op and 2) his subsequent threat to 'dismantle the CIA'.

That theory was pooh-poohed as an impossibility, that there simply couldn't be any "rogue element" in the agency and anyone who believed so was nuts.

Well dress me up and call me Shirley but here we have documented evidence that yes in deed, there ARE 'rogue elements' in the CIA and said groups WILL do their darnedest to bring down an Administration they disagree with.

Ergo, if today's CIA 'dissident faction' will pull the stuff they're doing now to bring down and discredit Dubya over policy and staff, what do you think they'd do if he threatened, like JFK did, to dismantle the CIA.

I say they'd do (said 'dissident faction') the same thing they did back on Nov 22, 1963.

We now return you to our regular scheduled programming (tin foil hat removed).

56 posted on 07/10/2006 7:57:24 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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