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To: SirLinksalot

So many of these arguments can be summarized as "Here is an impossibly complex reality, it must have been made by a thinking God." Thus we explain that which is too complex for our understanding by postulating a God who must be much more complex in order to have created that which we see. Sorry, makes no sense to me.


8 posted on 07/09/2006 9:21:08 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: tickmeister
So many of these arguments can be summarized as "Here is an impossibly complex reality, it must have been made by a thinking God." Thus we explain that which is too complex for our understanding by postulating a God who must be much more complex in order to have created that which we see. Sorry, makes no sense to me.

I don't see that in this particular experience/opinion, and I think often it is more along the lines of an undeniable intelligence than impossible complexity, but I will say that for me accepting that something as complex as say the reproductive system of mammals or the cardiovascular system simply evolved is a much greater stretch than believing in a Creator.

12 posted on 07/09/2006 9:54:03 PM PDT by Northern Alliance
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To: tickmeister
Sorry, makes no sense to me.

Your choice, of course. But this article is a hit to the "argument" of some evols who try to dismiss the belief in intelligent design of some scientists. The extent of their argument is generally just that these guys are nutcases, blah, blah, blah.

You've admitted (perhaps not intentionally) that it is a matter of faith either way, and I can respect that.

38 posted on 07/10/2006 7:39:13 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: tickmeister
Sorry, makes no sense to me.

Your choice, of course. But this article is a hit to the "argument" of some evols who try to dismiss the belief in intelligent design of some scientists. The extent of their argument is generally just that these guys are nutcases, blah, blah, blah. You've admitted (perhaps not intentionally) that it is a matter of faith either way, and I can respect that.

45 posted on 07/10/2006 7:54:41 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: tickmeister

>>So many of these arguments can be summarized as "Here is an impossibly complex reality, it must have been made by a thinking God."<<

You miss his point. You are an AM radio questioning the existence of FM. You will not get his point until you have, as he did, a defining epiphany, as ALL Christians have.

His message is not for you - yet.


47 posted on 07/10/2006 8:16:31 AM PDT by RobRoy (The Internet is doing to Evolution what it did to Dan Rather. Information is power.)
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To: tickmeister

I am sure that some accounts can be explained as you suggest. However, another likely scenario is that when an individual ponders the magnitude, complexity and beauty of creation, and when that individual is properly prepared, revelation/inspiration from the Lord can be received.

The experiences of the Apollo astronauts (Borman, Irwin and others), come to mind as relevant examples. This site/article may not provide the most objective account of their experiences, but it was the best link I could conveniently locate:

http://www.eschatologytoday.net/newsviewer.php?id=51


188 posted on 07/13/2006 6:58:09 AM PDT by jimbolog
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