Posted on 07/08/2006 8:12:30 AM PDT by mathprof
Well-connected public figures report that they have been told recently by Rudolph Giuliani that, as of now, he intends to run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.
The former mayor of New York was on top of last month's national Gallup poll measuring presidential preferences by registered Republicans, with 29 percent. Sen. John McCain's 24 percent was second, with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich third at 8 percent. National polls all year have shown Giuliani running either first or second to McCain, with the rest of the presidential possibilities far behind.
Republican insiders respond to these numbers by saying rank-and-file GOP voters will abandon Giuliani once they realize his position on abortion, gay rights and gun control. Party strategists calculate that if he actually runs, he must change on at least one of these issues.
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While I like Allen and his voting record, I shudder at what the Democrats will do to him in the election. They try to will paint him as some dumb hillbilly racist redneck. You know they will bust out that picture of him as a teenager with the confederate flag and put that in their campaign commercials.
With Guiliani, they will try to paint him as some hard-line racist police leader and they will bust out the picture of him in a wig and makeup.
Which would be worse?
I think McCain may be our best shot. He has no scandalous pictures out there (that we know of).
I'm more disturbed that Newt Gingrich was third. The guy makes Bill Clinton look like a 50's sitcom husband. Not to mention he resigned in disgrace 8 years ago.
Nixon was the last liberal Republican elected. Lets hope Giuliani's Presidency ends better than his did. lol
The only reason I'll respect Newt more than Slick Willy is because Newt actually resigned after revelations of his women's troubles and calling x42 to do the same. At least, that was honorable.
However, Newt is not fit to be President.
I like Allen too but he's just not ready for "The Show".
Jeb is the best candidate period, except his last name is Bush.
McCain is a raving lunatic.
So this leaves us with Rudy, especially after how he handled 9/11. That'll get him a lot of votes in the primaries right away.
Allen would make a great VP for Rudy to groom for 2016!
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Rudy is the only candidate the GOP has that I can actively get behind and support.
McCain? gimme a break! Wishful thinking by the mains stream media and middle of the road RINOs and not a chance in hell of becoming President.
As far as Rudy's stands...
Gay Rights? Same response... it's an issue for the courts and the states to resolve and say what you will, Rudy is no flaming liberal and he's not in favor of activist judges. That alone will help the cause
Gun Control? Here is where he better tone up and I believe he knows it
Rudy is his own man and he has a solid sense of the rule of law. He'll make a fine President in my book.
"Pro-choice" is a liberal construct. There is no such thing. Giuliani is PRO-ABORTION.
"Our" best shot? Speak for yourself. No self-respecting Conservative or veteran would would vote for that liberal schmuck under any circumstances. I'll never forget McCain calling the SwiftVets "dishonest and dishonorable".
"The question whether the judges are invested with exclusive authority to decide on the constitutionality of a law has been heretofore a subject of consideration with me in the exercise of official duties. Certainly there is not a word in the Constitution which has given that power to them more than to the Executive or Legislative branches."
—Thomas Jefferson to W. H. Torrance
"But the Chief Justice says, 'There must be an ultimate arbiter somewhere.' True, there must; but does that prove it is either party? The ultimate arbiter is the people of the Union, assembled by their deputies in convention, at the call of Congress or of two-thirds of the States. Let them decide to which they mean to give an authority claimed by two of their organs. And it has been the peculiar wisdom and felicity of our Constitution, to have provided this peaceable appeal, where that of other nations is at once to force." —Thomas Jefferson to William Johnson
"But, you may ask, if the two departments [i.e., federal and state] should claim each the same subject of power, where is the common umpire to decide ultimately between them? In cases of little importance or urgency, the prudence of both parties will keep them aloof from the questionable ground; but if it can neither be avoided nor compromised, a convention of the States must be called to ascribe the doubtful power to that department which they may think best."
—Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright
"The Constitution . . . meant that its coordinate branches should be checks on each other. But the opinion which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch." —Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams
"To consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions [is] a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men and not more so. They have with others the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps. Their maxim is boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionem [good justice is broad jurisdiction], and their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots. It has more wisely made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves."
—Thomas Jefferson to William C. Jarvis
"In denying the right [the Supreme Court usurps] of exclusively explaining the Constitution, I go further than [others] do, if I understand rightly [this] quotation from the Federalist of an opinion that 'the judiciary is the last resort in relation to the other departments of the government, but not in relation to the rights of the parties to the compact under which the judiciary is derived.' If this opinion be sound, then indeed is our Constitution a complete felo de se [act of suicide]. For intending to establish three departments, coordinate and independent, that they might check and balance one another, it has given, according to this opinion, to one of them alone the right to prescribe rules for the government of the others, and to that one, too, which is unelected by and independent of the nation. For experience has already shown that the impeachment it has provided is not even a scare-crow . . . The Constitution on this hypothesis is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please."
—Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane
"This member of the Government was at first considered as the most harmless and helpless of all its organs. But it has proved that the power of declaring what the law is, ad libitum, by sapping and mining slyly and without alarm the foundations of the Constitution, can do what open force would not dare to attempt."
—Thomas Jefferson to Edward Livingston
"My construction of the Constitution is . . . that each department is truly independent of the others and has an equal right to decide for itself what is the meaning of the Constitution in the cases submitted to its action; and especially where it is to act ultimately and without appeal."
—Thomas Jefferson to Spencer Roane
If Rudy wants it, it's his. He has very broad suppport.
I will support who ever is the Republican nominee in 2008. I don't want to see Hillary and Bubba back in the White House. I will vote for Mickey Mouse if he were running against Hillary.
These remarks resound in logic and conservative idealism!
Giuliani's supporters are composed of two groups -
1. The Cheerleaders.
These folks look at political leaders like a teenager would a movie star. Style, not substance, is what catches their eye.
2. The Fearmongers.
'America is doomed if we fail to elect Rudy!'
As if Giuliani has ever did one thing to prove he'd be effective in the war on terror. The Fearmongers desperately attempt to equate chasing hookers from Times Sq. with fighting al-Qaeda.
I've come to the conclusion that they are either very naive or have ulterior motives for promoting the pro-gay, pro-abort, pro-tax, anti-gun, anti-Constitution, anti-Reagan - Rudolph Giuliani.
"I think McCain may be our best shot. He has no scandalous pictures out there (that we know of)."
Man are you smoking dope. This whole thread, filled with Rudy and McInsane lovers is just bizarre.
Not so bizarre as it is indicative of the state of the G.O.P.
What you are reading are comments by Republicans as opposed to those of conservatives.
War on Terror is getting to be old news and wearing quite thin as an issue. It's been abused and overused; seems like every political election manages to bring in elements of war on terror if only as background, from local dog catchers to city commissioners to governors etc.
We'll still be at war with terrorists fifty years from now and if we're to enjoy some semblance of normal life, we better start paying attention to issues other than yesterday's "political hoola-hoops"!
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