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Well...........naive when it comes to trusting people I thought I could trust, I guess.

I've never had his accusations turned on me in this fashion.............and all of them based on positions I don't hold, and things I've never said. All completely unfounded and untrue.

I've met this man. I really thought he was honorable.

He knows I am honest to the core...........and he is using that against me. It's disturbing.

I know you as sincere and honest, and we've never met face to face.

The Simcox lackeys on the one hand, to their credit, are sincere in their fight to protect this nation, all of us on this forum are. That's the fundamental agreement we've all come to. On the other hand, they can't stand their "leader" when red flags go up, and questions even from Minutemen (a group of which I'm not a due-paying member of) themselves, begin to be asked about where all this money raised is actually being spent on. The most glaring example is the 5-strand, 2.2 mile-long barbed wire fence, which was supposedly going to cost $300,000 per mile and members were told to, "donate generously", (Simcox wants $55 million more in donations), when in reality the fence itself is more like $8,000 per mile. When all along members were told they had been promised an "Israeli-style fence".

They're hypocrites in their attacks on the Bush administration. Their only problem, is they have nothing to show for it except needless ad hominems toward those who fundamentally disagree with them, and a clear case of unfounded evidence.

But it is not just the group's rivals who are skeptical of the fence plan. Even longtime supporter Richard Humphries of Courtland, one of the original Minutemen, sees some validity to Spencer's concerns.

"I know that if I had donated $100,000 to build a fence to fight illegal immigration and then found out that my money had been spent to build a five-strand, barbed-wire fence to keep cattle out, I'd be a little unhappy," he [Humphries] said.

Source: Douglas (Arizona) Dispatch - June 8, 2006

"I know that if I had donated $100,000 to build a fence to fight illegal immigration and then found out that my money had been spent to build a five-strand, barbed-wire fence to keep cattle out, I'd be a little unhappy"