But the doctrine of saved by grace is systematically presented in the OT as well as the NT. (we're going to get spanked for derailing this) If you take the book of Ezekiel and look at the 26th chapter vs 13 to the end of the chapter you see a sovereign God who acts for his names sake for the benefit of his chosen people who have chosen to defile his name. This theme is reflected over and over again in Jacob and Esau, the life of David, and many many other stories involving the nation of Israel. God chose them - they rejected him - God pursued them - they rejected him - God acts to make up for their insufficient behavior. Eternal security is reflected in the nature of God's relationship to the nation of Israel - they are chosen and set aside not because of their good behavior but because of God's grace and mercy despite their behavior. Same for all of us NT believers.
Longsuffering should not be confused with unconditional.
Just ask Dan.
Israel's choosing by God is mirrored in the Church as a whole being chosen and predestined by God. Just as there were individuals lost that belonged of Israel, there will be individuals who will lose out that were once in church.
But you are right.. we are hijacking this thread.
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